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Apr 18 2022 07:25am
Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 18 2022 09:24am)
I wasn't aware of that.

When I was in school, they didn't teach things like gender roles.



And I suppose the fact that your sex talk isn't expressly forbidden by law really gives you encouragement, huh?


No, it isn't forbidden to teach children about the bodies they are in, their basic biology, or what is going to happen to them physically as they age.

It would be completely fucking retarded to not teach children these things.

You conflate orientation, a direction, with sex, an act. Go rub one out and relax.

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Yes it's progress. Conservatives pine for the days of 12 and 13 year old brides, the good ole days. Your lawmaking reflects this. You would go back to higher teenage marriage and pregnancy in a heartbeat.

Educating people about their bodies leads to more control over their lives.


Then you need to prove it's progress.

Hint: you can't, and it's because it's an opinion. And apparently, you want school curricula changed based on an opinion. Lol. You are laughable.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 18 2022 09:15am)
Because we as a society agree that those things are good and should be included in school curricula. Whereas your precious sex talk isn't.


I don't think we as a society do agree?
You do realize what this law says, right?
Under the don't say gay law you cannot discuss any gender or sexual orientation, even heteronormative ones in grades K-3.
Here's a small list of gendered words:
Mom, Dad, Son, Daughter, Brother, Sister, Aunt, Uncle, Husband, Wife, and the titles Mr. Mrs. and Ms.
Is this the sex talk you keep referring to that you don't want children to hear?
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Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 18 2022 09:25am)
Then you need to prove it's progress.

Hint: you can't, and it's because it's an opinion. And apparently, you want school curricula changed based on an opinion. Lol. You are laughable.


Progress for those of us against child marriage and child reproduction. Not progress for you folks, just more stuff you're not allowed to do.
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No, it isn't forbidden to teach children about the bodies they are in, their basic biology, or what is going to happen to them physically as they age.


That's what I am saying. You think you can include sex talk with children and the only reason you cite is because it's not forbidden by law.

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It would be completely fucking retarded to not teach children these things.


That's your opinion. I think it's fucking retarded to have sex talk with children.
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Apr 18 2022 07:28am
Quote (David_911 @ Apr 18 2022 06:26am)
I don't think we as a society do agree?
You do realize what this law says, right?
Under the don't say gay law you cannot discuss any gender or sexual orientation, even heteronormative ones in grades K-3.
Here's a small list of gendered words:
Mom, Dad, Son, Daughter, Brother, Sister, Aunt, Uncle, Husband, Wife, and the titles Mr. Mrs. and Ms.
Is this the sex talk you keep referring to that you don't want children to hear?


I mainly don't want children to be exposed to talks about how homosexuality and transsexuals are normal.
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Progress for those of us against child marriage and child reproduction. Not progress for you folks, just more stuff you're not allowed to do.


Keep crying about how un-progressive we are and see where that gets you.
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That's what I am saying. You think you can include sex talk with children and the only reason you cite is because it's not forbidden by law.



That's your opinion. I think it's fucking retarded to have sex talk with children.


Yeah, and having sex with children is also illegal and reprehensible. Good things teachers are mandatory reporters, helping many children out of abusive households.

Still, 40% of teenage pregnancies are due to males above 25....that is a lot of sexual violence against children, and often the family is aware of the relationship and condones it. Education is what combats this, as this phenomenon is worse in lower educated, more rural areas.

But family and religious systems resist. Thank god for schools out there.

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I mainly don't want children to be exposed to talks about how homosexuality and transsexuals are normal.


They are being told what they are, that they exist, and they shouldn't be oppressed. That is different than saying they're normal. Some of them are in the classes already and they're learning about themselves. Some are just learning not to be pieces of shit to their neighbors. Its okay.

The root of all this is the rejection of the possibility or fear of the possibility that your kid is gay or trans. Then in your own view your child isn't worthy of life. Imagine the cognitive dissonance that causes?

I know so many gay people who were just disowned by an immoral family because they deified their own bigotry in this weird self-worship evangelicals do.

Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 18 2022 09:29am)
Keep crying about how un-progressive we are and see where that gets you.


I'm pretty successful and have absolutely nothing to fear from you people. Not sure what kind of weird threat this is.

I'm not crying at how unprogressive you are, you are dude.

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Quote (David_911 @ Apr 18 2022 06:12am)
To reply to your edited comment...
I never claimed it was. I do, however, think that society should be progressive, not regressive.
Less than a hundred years ago women couldn't vote.
If we applied this persons argument to that it would go: People survived millions of years without women voting, why should we let women vote?
See how ridiculous that argument is?


and now your replacing them with dudes in dresses...............the new patriarchy
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Apr 18 2022 07:34am
Quote (Skinned @ Apr 18 2022 06:29am)

They are being told what they are, that they exist, and they shouldn't be oppressed. That is different than saying they're normal.


How is not talking about homos and trannies "oppressing" them?

Also, if you want to go by, "they exist so we should talk to kids about them", then you have to be consistent and talk about all the other kinds of freaks. Necrophilia, piquerism, people who fetishize feet...etc.
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