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Nov 26 2023 02:39pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ 26 Nov 2023 21:29)
Do not call me with names, do not engage me, and do not bump old double topic.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=654642245


You can petition a moderator to close it if your topic bothers you.

You made it after Ferdias topic which got started in January 2022
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Nov 26 2023 02:54pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 26 2023 07:29pm)
I'll add a few bits:

The sanctions backfired and the Eu suffered massive inflation because of the energy crisis and increased commodity costs. Governments had to step in to subsidize households, pushing up already high national debt. Coal fired power stations that were shut down to reduce carbon emissions had to be restarted because the flow of cheap natural gas was cut.

Russia was driven into China's camp and even befriended North Korea to secure ammo deliveries from that country. The North Koreans recently successfully launched a military spy satellite into orbit thanks to Russian help which is a massive headache not only for the US and South Korea but also for Japan.

Ukraine is running out of manpower and is now sending increasingly older men to the frontlines, men that don't want to be there.

Russia is running it's armament factories 24/7 which is easy to do for them because it's all state owned. Compare to the West where that stuff is being made by private companies and they completely fail to keep up with demand. Ukraine burned through 7 years of javelin production in a single year, NATO 155 mm ammo stockpiles were emptied and the US even shipped in their stockpiles from South Korea and Israel which still wasn't enough, the US had no other choice to send cluster munitions because they were out of the regular rounds. A complete embarrassment.


A complete embarrassment is being beaten back from Kiev by the military of the poorest country on the continent. Retreating from Kharkiv oblast. Retreating from Kherson oblast. An oblast which is Putin claims is part of the Russian federation.
Embarking on a war slated to last weeks or days that's now almost 2 years and counting.
Starting a war and saying there will be no mass mobilisation. Then having a massive mobilisation.

A complete embarrassment is losing more troops in 2 years than Russia has in all its wars since world war 2 combined.
But if you say everything is coming up Milhouse for Russia, then I guess it must be true.

The only thing probably more embarrassing is apologising, under false pretext for the people solely responsible for the war in the first place. Russians.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 26 2023 02:56pm
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Nov 26 2023 03:02pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 26 2023 09:29pm)
Do not call me with names, do not engage me, and do not bump old double topic.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=654642245


I'm not Ferdia and secondly you don't tell anyone to not post in this topic. This section is open for debate and the topic is relevant as ever because Putin hasn't lost the war as you by now surely understand.

Good material for discussion.
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Nov 26 2023 03:09pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 26 2023 09:54pm)
A complete embarrassment is being beaten back from Kiev by the military of the poorest country on the continent. Retreating from Kharkiv oblast. Retreating from Kherson oblast. An oblast which is Putin claims is part of the Russian federation.
Embarking on a war slated to last weeks or days that's now almost 2 years and counting.
Starting a war and saying there will be no mass mobilisation. Then having a massive mobilisation.

A complete embarrassment is losing more troops in 2 years than Russia has in all its wars since world war 2 combined.
But if you say everything is coming up Milhouse for Russia, then I guess it must be true.

The only thing probably more embarrassing is apologising, under false pretext for the people solely responsible for the war in the first place. Russians.


Most of what you say is factually incorrect but you surely know that. And if you want to lure me in you just failed to do that.

I will just point you to my post above that states factual and correct information. If you want I can post the sources about energy crisis and inflation in the EU and all the rest. All correct information so you can fact check that ;)

This post was edited by Djunior on Nov 26 2023 03:17pm
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Nov 26 2023 03:14pm
fuck russia, fuck ukraine

Bless the good people who survive these leaders arguments.
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Nov 26 2023 03:16pm
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 26 2023 10:14pm)
fuck russia, fuck ukraine

Bless the good people who survive these leaders arguments.


If the West had said that back in 2008 then everything would be fine right now. Only no Ukraine price for NATO which apparently is unacceptable for that lot.
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Nov 26 2023 03:19pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 26 2023 09:16pm)
If the West had said that back in 2008 then everything would be fine right now. Only no Ukraine price for NATO which apparently is unacceptable for that lot.


Honestly,. the USA controls the world.

I have zero shame in saying that Ukraine depleting Russia's military is okay.
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Nov 26 2023 03:22pm
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 26 2023 10:19pm)
Honestly,. the USA controls the world.

I have zero shame in saying that Ukraine depleting Russia's military is okay.


Only their old military stock is now being replaced with new equipment. It's turning into a huge big mess and spiraling out of control in ways that nobody in the West ever wanted. Be honest about it.

The far better solution would've been to prevent this shit from happening this is un undeniable truth
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Nov 26 2023 03:24pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 26 2023 09:22pm)
Only their old military stock is now being replaced with new equipment. It's turning into a huge big mess and spiraling out of control in ways that nobody in the West ever wanted. Be honest about it.

The far better solution would've been to prevent this shit from happening this is un undeniable truth


I don't hate you Djunio, Get with USA or fall on the wayside.
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Nov 26 2023 03:26pm
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 26 2023 10:24pm)
I don't hate you Djunio, Get with USA or fall on the wayside.


Ukraine is getting with USA but is now falling on the wayside

I agree with your "fuck both" statement in your first reply though man. Could've prevented a lot of trouble
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