Truth is, this Ukraine "crisis" was probably planned by Biden's team before he even took office.

After the Trump years, they knew they needed to get back on track of waging Neocon-style imperialism, which was lacking somewhat during the Trump years, mainly because he did not want to provoke conflict with Russia - as such a thing was clearly not in America's interest.

Neocons don't see things that way, and they don't care how many people die due to their decisions, and they care only about their own interests, not the interests of Americans.

It only took Biden's team a year in office to try and start a new war somewhere. Ukraine was the target. The dumbass Ukrainians, gorged on their hatred for everything Russian, were more than willing to oblige.

Fact is, Putin would not have recognized the independence of DPR and LPR if Ukraine hadn't placed 60,000 troops and 500 armored vehicles on the border of Donbass, on Biden's order.

This is why all Neocon tactics are ultimately self-defeating. These people shouldn't even be allowed to run a coffee shop, let alone a fucking country. They put us all in danger with their insane warmongering. May God have mercy on their souls.

russia is always a curious case, feels like their GDP is only telling half the story

Ukraine is not Russia is your counter argument? Dude stop it just lol man...

Cuba isn't the USA either okay do you get it or not. Ukraine is on Russia's doorstep just like Cuba is on the US' doorstep.

I mean, talking about mental gymnastics, you're quite the champ here dude, you win that gold medal LOL

BTW if I'm six years old than you're def still soiling your diapers come at me

You can have a small GDP and invest 15%+ of tax receipts in military to be a geopolitical power - North Korea do that too. But in the long term they get left behind

i am not so sure how they would get left behind from a western perspective, when most western nations have a more dysfunctional society

russia has massive problems and its only a matter of time until some internal trouble is escalating again (probably in the caucasus region)

however i cant think of many places with more potential that can be activated when needed

in the end GDP is only a number

Curious case indeed.

Their national debt is under 18% of their GDP.

They've boosted their gold reserves and foreign currency reserves sky high. They got massive natural gas / oil / mineral reserves.

Their latest military equipment especially their strategic missile defense forces are cutting edge. MIRV equipped hypersonic missiles like RS-24 Yars and we're not even talking about shit like Poseidon nukes.

Their nukes are for a large part on mobile launchers, never know where they're at in that vast expanse of land.

BTW systems like RS-24 Yars were developed to counter the missile shield that the US has installed in Eastern EU, a fact that far left woke hotheads like like to ignore. According to him Russians are bad cuz they're not woke and nothing else matters.

Last but not least they've got an ally in China, a country that also shits on Western wokeism and possesses immense industrial manufacturing capabilities.


I mean what can go wrong here? Lets start a war with Russia cuz WW1 and WW2 was just child play people like seem to think

This post was edited by Djunior on Feb 21 2022 01:45pm

We're entering an era where these are what matters not fiat paper money. Look at our (US) inflation figures and the tens of trillions that where printed in the last 2 years and please tell me more how much GDP actually means.

The fact that Russia has near unlimited natural resources (people should open up a world map and just look at how much of the world land mass Russia actually covers) is pretty important nowadays. They also have the biggest world manufacturer next door and we are pushing them into camp China. I think 50 years from now historians will look back and think wtf was the west thinking pushing Russia into China's camp. That's the real power that will take over US hegemony.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Feb 21 2022 02:17pm

Agreed. Russia could have been a valuable trade partner for the West but instead NATO pushed them in a corner and ignored their concerns.

Quite a bit. A government's strength depends fundamentally on 'number of people' x 'GDP'. Military and technological investments are ancillary to simple demographic math. The United States has such a large military advantage over Russia primarily because of a far larger population, and over a century of economic dominance.

Russia's degradation into a third world commodity resource hub for China is an embarrassment to the Russian people, and really indicative of the quagmire that the current regime finds itself in. They can't reform without jeopardizing regime security, but failure to reform makes them a long-term vassal to the Chinese.

we should just impost a small array of tariffs on Russia like Trump did with China. it worked so well and China is no longer a threat.