I wanna just go live on an island or on a boat or something.

you should be for an electoral system, your ideology benefits the most from it

I'm not for an electoral system because I don't believe it is legitimate or fair whatsoever. I believe that the majority of our government's officials are pre-chosen and our votes don't count whatsoever.

the concept of partial blame is real, blame is not binary.



i just dont like the idea of LA having 6x the votes of Vermont with everything weighted equally. the EC system is far from perfect, but popular vote isnt the solution i can be sold on.

this conversation continues in a way where i feel we both would agree our current government system is bad so ill leave it there, this topic isnt about that anyway

how dare you try and silence me.

This is just like if I were to blame Obama for all of the people running around that said, "My president's black! What now?" Well, if a white man were to run around saying, "My president's white," then it'd be seen as racism. The double standard in America is disgusting and I think it's pathetic. If there were a W.E.T station like there's a B.E.T station, that's somehow magically racist. If there would be a WLM (white lives matter) movement, that'd be seen as racist. To be white in this day and time is to be assumed to be a racist by many and it's really sad that division has so easily impacted our country. IMO, the media has allowed this crap to happen time and time again. When was the last time you saw on the news that a white person was killed by police? Almost every single time it ends up being that a black man is killed by police. Well, that makes the implication that only black people are getting killed by police, which is simply untrue. As long as the color of someone's skin is mentioned in any part of a conversation and as long as people have vision, racism will always be around--sadly.

The mainstream media is so dead set on dividing our country through hatred and racism... it's so sad to see.

This post was edited by net on Oct 14 2021 12:56pm

U responded to me saying blame is not binary by offering another binary?

im saying Trump is partially to blame for his outspoken racist supporters, just as Obama is partially to blame for fanning flames of racism, ala his "he could have been my son" and such statements.

The racist supporters are exercising their freedom of speech. He denounced it over 38 times as seen in my video and literally said he didn't want their votes and their crap is unwelcome. What do you suggest he do more than that? Like, what else can be done? IMO any forms of racism should be criminalized. Our countries founding fathers were mostly slave owners and the whole "freedom of speech" thing being used as a defense for racism needs to be changed.

what should he have done? not have came out initially as an anti mexico candidate with overly harsh rhetoric, that was the spark.

what is he capable of doing? not much, once his racist followers got the idea that him disavowing them was just to placate the media it was impossible to do anything.

his most devout followers are currently running with the idea that he lost in 2020 on purpose to Biden ruling could expose the deepstate, and his loss of lawsuits was just him being 10 steps ahead to expose corrupt courts. he can not stop the juggernaut that is his most fervent base, maybe 5% or less of his voters.

its for this reason that his partial blame is not full blame.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 14 2021 01:12pm