correct. you didn't make an argument, you made a false equivalence. i'm glad you see that now, because equating whatever democrat's comments triggered you there with a months long campaign of lies and misrepresentations about stolen and rigged elections, inciting your unhinged followers to start a violent coup, is certainly pretty dumb.

We have precedent for impeachment of officials after their terms are up.

Impeachment is a general process for removal of federal officials.

So in Trump's words.... Wrong



Oh and I love how you are talking about political consequences from his base, and when it's convenient the base is too dumb to parse a WHO tweet stating that "according to China there isn't yet evidence". You love to move your standards.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jan 28 2021 02:25pm

It is probably a false equivalence. The BLM/antifa riots killed far more people, injured far more people, caused far more economic damage, and were perpetuated by individuals with far more dominant institutional power.

The deranged rantings of a now ex-president are almost comically minor in comparison.

So desparate

Did you mean: desperate

Disparate would be accurate

What a bunch of childish nonsense. Waste of time. If Trump is impeached we need to impeach every political figure who has ever used the words fight figuratively and others for their more direct incitements of violence. Rand Paul hit the nail on the head. Where is the “unity”? Childish bullshit.

This post was edited by UmadLoL on Jan 28 2021 03:08pm

Which ones? And were they taking place on the same constitutional basis as a presidential impeachment?


See...




Read more carefully. I didnt talk about political consequences from his base, I talked about political consequences from GOP voters. These two groups have large, but non-total overlap. Republicans who are not "cultists" are free to electorally punish those Republican who stood against impeachment over the coming years. Without this segment of the electorate, the GOP cant win crucial races, not for Congress and not for the presidency. It is up to these voters to decide whether they really want to put punishment for Trump or Trump-enablers over conservative policy priorities.

And just for the record: I am convinced that Trump himself is discredited, even among the GOP primary electorate. I consider it unlikely that he would even run again in the first place, but even if he did, he will definitely not be the GOP candidate in 2024.

Actually impeachment is for numerous government officials beyond the president. But Trump as president was impeached, and now a Senate trial must proceed.

We've found that presidents can do many horrible things that don't violate criminal statutes... it's kind of absurd to even float the notion that courts should settle this. It's the job of Congress to hold the president accountable. Deferring to the will of the personality cult is not their job.

I want to point out what you're doing here.

You propose holding Trump accountable in court... and then later acknowledge that he didn't break any laws.

You go on to propose holding Trump accountable at the ballot box... and then offer up the likely scenario that Republican voters won't turn on him because his behavior.

A more honest person would just say "I don't want Trump to be held accountable in any way for what he did".