if you genuinely have no clue who and what the proud boys are, and who they associate with, you should do some very basic research on the internet.
but i think everyone here, including you, knows it, you people just don't have the balls to admit it publicly - so keep sticking your fingers in your ears while pretending there simply is no evidence while shouting "nO yUo!"... maybe you can convince yourself, lol...

Yeah I'll have to do more research into the rally thing. I honestly don't know as much about that. Though I'll take your word for it. Though the fact Richard Spencer was an organizer is alarming. It does sound like a mixed event though, wasn't this over the removal of a Robert E Lee statue?

It still doesn't change that the Proud Boys are being framed as a white supremacist group, which they don't seem to be. I'm not even a supporter of the group, I just don't like false information.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2046881076880/white-supremacist-richard-spencer-endorses-joe-biden

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Sep 30 2020 10:24am

Do you always make worthless posts with nothing statements?

I'll applaud Thor, at least he's providing some good discussion and information on some things.

Unlike you.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Sep 30 2020 10:27am

I don't know much about the proud boys either, which is why I said let's find out together.

The Unite the Right rally was technically about the Robert E. Lee statue, but confederate symbolism is heavily featured in American white supremacy, so those things aren't mutually exclusive. There may have been some portion of people there not about white supremacy, but you can say that about any gathering for any reason.

If the Proud Boys are fine associating with Kessler, and Kessler organized a white supremacist rally in 2017 where people were killed, it's not really surprising or necessarily misinformation to associate the Proud Boys with white supremacy. The media doesn't exactly have time to get nuanced about every issue, and right-wing groups will tend to downplay their unpopular positions so they don't scare away membership.

Ah, so finally you admit that Trump did NOT call white supremacists "fine people".


BTW, you're backpedaling. Previously you stated that they were ALL white supremacists.

This post was edited by ReturnFormer on Sep 30 2020 10:40am

Go back and read what I said again, and do it slowly.

Trump refused to condemn white supremacists, then condemned them after 3 days of pressure from his party, and then immediately followed it up with "fine people on both sides", and because he took so long to condemn them and immediately followed it up with his "both sides" comments, it was seen as a walk-back.

You are just super desperate to leave out context.

so the fine people on both sides would be including the white supremacists.. Its all inclusive..
why do you keep bringing this up.
do you want trump to either denounce white supremacists which he refused to do. Trump played stupid by "what do you want me to call them?"
Or do a person by person body count on who is or who isn't.
ffs no wonder trump is the pres.

obtusely asking 'where is the evidence?' for something every child know is 'good discussion'? low standards...

You previously said that there was only white supremacists present, and therefore he had to be talking about them. (Even though he specifically excluded them. ) I agree it was kinda dumb of him to wait, but that doesn't change his explicit condemnation of white supremacists. One has nothing to do with the other. You are just super desperate to label him a racist.





I suggest you read the full quote, not the snippet that liberal media cherry picked to feed to you. He explicitly excluded white supremacists from his statement of "fine people" and said that they should be "condemned totally".

I don't know why he refused to say that again here, but he HAS in the past. My guess would be he did it purposefully to throw the liberal media into a fit over it ("Zomg, see, he's racist!" ) so that they focus on that instead of other issues. Knowing that his supporters know that he isn't. I would say, though, that I think he's underestimating how swing voters will take it, and that it was a mistake.

This post was edited by ReturnFormer on Sep 30 2020 11:12am

The bold is just a lie. You just told a lie I explicitely refuted in the last post of our last conversation. When you have made it clear youre a bold face liar why should I continue?