If you're a leftist and I'm a warmongering Neocon...Santara might be libertarian lite?

When you control for socioeconomic circumstances you find that black people have far more contacts with the police on average. The reason is pretty obvious, even Chris Rock gets pulled over in Beverly Hills for "broken taillights" that are never broken.

https://www.cato.org/policing-in-america/chapter-3/personal-contact-police-and-justice-system
https://cpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/sites.wustl.edu/dist/7/497/files/2018/07/Police-Use-of-Force-by-Ethnicity-Sex-and-Socioeconomic-Class-1h3fybv.pdf

These are the first two results when you search "average contact with police by income" on google. It's VERY VERY well established that black people have more contact with police compared to an equivalent white person.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 17 2020 07:06pm

i'll go over this one ty

It doesn’t say he shot at the cops or even pointed it at them. Or even was holding it. It’s clear that a shell casing was in his car. Likely spent days or weeks before. The car is probably where the gun was as well. The way it’s framed reeks of gun grabbing authoritarianism as well.

School started back up this week, I have so much less time than I've enjoyed since Covid started. This weekend is all about getting ready to go hunting next weekend. Busy busy busy.

My drive shaft bearing just came in for the skidoo. People are already out on them where I'm at. Need to reassemble everything this weekend. Can probably push the quads into October though.

This post was edited by SBD on Sep 18 2020 11:55am

Alright so according to the second link (an actual study) which was highly limited in scope - Which as I've come to understand is common with these types of studies - for a number of reasons. In fact, the WaPo seems to have the best statistics on actual shootings. Police departments tend to be uncooperative with sharing these types of facts.

The study you linked was based on surveying the public and asking them about their own police interactions. Not quite what I was originally referring to, but that's fine.

From what I understand it's an extremely difficult thing to study due to how poor police departments are at reporting statistics and facts.


I'm going to bookmark it as I think it tells a valuable piece of the story - But by no means does it prove any specific point

The main point is that this was the second link when I did a basic google search. There's a lot more information, and if you actually want to know you should start looking yourself.

One big thing here is that police departments aren't uniform in their reporting of race of suspects during arrests. There's some laughably bad reporting, and you can find examples of coal black guys getting classified as white.

You should also do some reading about how the KKK actually had plans to infiltrate police departments after civil rights, and were successful.

Anyway, it's important to remember that there isn't a big leap in time between emancipation, civil rights, and now, and the same police departments that originated as slave patrols were the ones putting down civil rights riots, and then were enforcing the drug laws targeted towards black people. It's not some loony fringe thing to say that black people have been abused by police, it would be an absolute fucking miracle if police departments could escape their past that quickly. Administrations are sticky, and culture is hard to change.

damn i thought you had read it before. it's okay i'll still hold onto it

I don't need to read one specific study, there's a reason why it's in sociology 101 textbooks that minorities get harsher treatment by the government than white people, because it's been obscenely well documented for literally our entire nation's history.

It only seems weird to claim black people get treated worse if you think race relations had a reset button pressed after civil rights.