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Oct 29 2025 02:10pm
sorry about being late answering. sometimes i find it is best to think about something before answering.
sola scriptora is a ancient concept brought about by conflict in church practices.
a lot of organized religion seem to practice a lot of things not found in scripture. i couldnt come to terms with that. so adopting that philosophy just came natural
some say correct interpretation of scripture is a super natural thing. so many things i have witnessed i am forced to believe thats a true statement

the concept.
scripture proves scripture. part of this is keeping scripture in context. (enemies of the word will take things out of context and lie about what it means)
scripture comparing scripture through out the book brings clarification of scripture.

according to the word belief is by faith which is just another word for trust. whats funny about this is everyone believes by faith(trust). its only in scripture that admits it though.

what most people seem to not talk about is how faith (trust) is built. the enemies lie about this continuously.
faith(trust) is built by the study of the word. the word holds up and faith(trust) builds.
my deliverance from alcohol, how can i not have faith? that was more done in my life than every other experience.

What particular things does the Eastern Orthodox Church practice that is not found in the bible or is contradictory to the bible?

"some say correct interpretation of scripture is a super natural thing. so many things i have witnessed i am forced to believe thats a true statement"

to be clear do you mean "supernatural" as in above nature or that is is very natural or very intuitive or "first nature" when you say "super natural" here?

This seems to imply any intuitive intereptation of scripture is correct, and if I come to the position that the Eastern Orthodox Church is the valid Church and you ought become a member of the body of Christ through scripture is this not valid? Just saying "it's super natural" to have correct interpretation would mean heretics like Arianism were correct, or it's just completely subjective because it was their natural interpretation.

If I come to a completely different conclusion reading the text you do, how do we determine who is correct if your methodology is "correct interpretation... is a super natural thing"

The Church compiled the bible, how do you come to the conclusion the Church was right here, but wrong today and the Church has failed? Most Christians in history did not have access to the bible and for hundreds of years there was no completed version of the bible at all, were none of these people Christian?




a few issues here but i'd mostly like to focus on the above things with one other clarification, the Word isn't the bible. The Word is a person, the Logos is Jesus Christ.
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Oct 29 2025 02:37pm
What particular things does the Eastern Orthodox Church practice that is not found in the bible or is contradictory to the bible?

"some say correct interpretation of scripture is a super natural thing. so many things i have witnessed i am forced to believe thats a true statement"

to be clear do you mean "supernatural" as in above nature or that is is very natural or very intuitive or "first nature" when you say "super natural" here?

This seems to imply any intuitive intereptation of scripture is correct, and if I come to the position that the Eastern Orthodox Church is the valid Church and you ought become a member of the body of Christ through scripture is this not valid? Just saying "it's super natural" to have correct interpretation would mean heretics like Arianism were correct, or it's just completely subjective because it was their natural interpretation.

If I come to a completely different conclusion reading the text you do, how do we determine who is correct if your methodology is "correct interpretation... is a super natural thing"

The Church compiled the bible, how do you come to the conclusion the Church was right here, but wrong today and the Church has failed? Most Christians in history did not have access to the bible and for hundreds of years there was no completed version of the bible at all, were none of these people Christian?




a few issues here but i'd mostly like to focus on the above things with one other clarification, the Word isn't the bible. The Word is a person, the Logos is Jesus Christ.


let me think on your post for a while.
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Oct 29 2025 02:38pm
whats also important here is how he treats the person he is having a conversation with
Charlie Kirk Explains The ENTIRE Bible in 8 Minutes

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sorry about being late answering. sometimes i find it is best to think about something before answering.
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That's a first. You are typically REEEEE'ing on all of your comments.
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1. What particular things does the Eastern Orthodox Church practice that is not found in the bible or is contradictory to the bible?

"some say correct interpretation of scripture is a super natural thing. so many things i have witnessed i am forced to believe thats a true statement"

2. to be clear do you mean "supernatural" as in above nature or that is is very natural or very intuitive or "first nature" when you say "super natural" here?

3. This seems to imply any intuitive intereptation of scripture is correct, and if I come to the position that the Eastern Orthodox Church is the valid Church and you ought become a member of the body of Christ through scripture is this not valid? Just saying "it's super natural" to have correct interpretation would mean heretics like Arianism were correct, or it's just completely subjective because it was their natural interpretation.

4. If I come to a completely different conclusion reading the text you do, how do we determine who is correct if your methodology is "correct interpretation... is a super natural thing"

5. The Church compiled the bible, how do you come to the conclusion the Church was right here, but wrong today and the Church has failed? Most Christians in history did not have access to the bible and for hundreds of years there was no completed version of the bible at all, were none of these people Christian?




6. a few issues here but i'd mostly like to focus on the above things with one other clarification, the Word isn't the bible. The Word is a person, the Logos is Jesus Christ.


i numbered your stuff to make things easier to follow
1. i pretty much dont know anything about the eastern orthodox church.
2. supernatural as in guided by the positive spiritual realm
3. supernatural as in guided by the positive spiritual realm. (i am not sure what you are trying to say here)
4. difference of opinion are best addressed by conversation.
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some say correct interpretation of scripture is a super natural thing. so many things i have witnessed i am forced to believe thats a true statement

by "supernatural" lets say something else is at work. i have witnessed to many strange things and these strange things force me into the above statement.
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KJ21 1 Corinthians 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who perish; but unto us who are saved, it is the power of God.

i remember a popular antitheist once said as he was complaining about scripture "its all jibberish to me"
5. were did they get the information to compile the bible. are you certain the church was the 1st to canonize?
6. ok
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This post was edited by TiStuff on Oct 30 2025 05:29am
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whats also important here is how he treats the person he is having a conversation with
Charlie Kirk Explains The ENTIRE Bible in 8 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4isqF8wTEA


thank You for that !
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Nov 5 2025 04:12pm
Interesting to see what is happening with NY especially the women voting outcomes. Always baffled me how the special group would support these people when these people want them dead.
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Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool



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Nov 7 2025 11:25am
Wrong thread....

This post was edited by Stauf on Nov 7 2025 11:26am
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Nov 7 2025 12:20pm
How much oil does Nigeria have for Trump to "care" about Christians there? Wish he was this fired up about the Ukranian war where Christians on both sides are dying, and Churches are being destroyed by Nazis in Ukraine.

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