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May 7 2023 04:24am
Quote (beanbag @ May 4 2023 06:00pm)
The mistake is not viewing his posts through this lens. For some reason, many right leaning people prefer Russia. Specifically Putin.


Right-wing Americans(or at least the pundits) prefer Putin because Trump does, and because they have to oppose whatever the so-called establishment supports. If Democrats are opposed to Putin, they must stand against that. It's the "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat" picture. A lot of Trump supporters hate Democrats much more than they hate enemies of America. If the people they hate are opposed to something or someone, like Russia, they are ready to support the other side.
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May 7 2023 05:10am
Democrats hate Russia

Republicans hate China

Choose your poison.
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Right-wing Americans(or at least the pundits) prefer Putin


Unlike pedo-Hitler Biden, Putin does not make castrating unconsenting minors a state protected practice

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Again, the premise is that Ukraine was on the verge of NATO membership, but it's simply not true. Even if it was true, it wouldn't justify Russia's genocidal war. But it's not true. So we're discussing an issue where you are accepting Russian propaganda as gospel, and ignoring the actual facts. You're also ignoring the actual justifications for the war against Ukraine from Russia. They don't talk much about Ukraine joining NATO... they talk about a bunch of other absurd things to justify the war. If you are going to defend Russia's genocidal invasion, how about you defend the justifications they themselves use? Defend what the popular tv shows in Russia are saying about the invasion. Because that's what Russians are hearing every day.


You're so fucking dishonest. That NATO expanded round after round is a fact, that Ukraine + Georgia are next on the list is a fact, that is hasn't happened yet is because Ukraine first had to take the necessary steps like signing the EU - Ukraine association agreement for example where it went wrong because the Ukrainian president (pro Russian) didn't sign the agreement which let to Euromaidan followed by the Crimea takeover.

But you know all that unless you're living under a rock. Or you're a dishonest clown which I suspect is the care ;)
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You're so fucking dishonest. That NATO expanded round after round is a fact, that Ukraine + Georgia are next on the list is a fact, that is hasn't happened yet is because Ukraine first had to take the necessary steps like signing the EU - Ukraine association agreement for example where it went wrong because the Ukrainian president (pro Russian) didn't sign the agreement which let to Euromaidan followed by the Crimea takeover.

But you know all that unless you're living under a rock. Or you're a dishonest clown which I suspect is the care ;)


Some facts:

- Countries are deciding to join NATO : NATO does not invade or "expand" by itself. It's only a defensive alliance.
- Ukrainians are supporting to join EU, NATO, and to get rid of ruscism and associated influence & regime.
- USSR and now RUSSIA is and are doing military agressions toward border countries since decades.

There's no "pro russian" president anymore in Ukraine since a while already.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on May 7 2023 10:55am
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Quote (Meanwhile @ May 7 2023 06:36pm)
Some facts:

- Countries are deciding to join NATO : NATO does not invade or "expand" by itself. It's only a defensive alliance.
- Ukrainians are supporting to join EU, NATO, and to get rid of ruscism and associated influence & regime.
- USSR and now RUSSIA is and are doing military agressions toward border countries since decades.

There's no "pro russian" president anymore in Ukraine since a while already.


Saying that countries ask to join is a just a poor excuse sauceman. The USSR dissolved in 1991, ongoing rounds of NATO expansion caused tensions, then cold war situation and now potentially WW3 (we have to wait and see). That's very smart right? /sarcasm

Ukraine decided to take that sweet EU bait --> the EU - Ukraine association / trade agreement proves that the EU has an agenda, NATO 2008 summit proves that NATO has an agenda.

You don't post facts, just poor excuses because you just hate Russia but the fact of the matter is that Russia (China too) will not go away and will just push back which historically always happens but people like you are too far down that rabbit hole to catch on to that.

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Quote (Djunior @ 7 May 2023 19:21)
Saying that countries ask to join is a just a poor excuse sauceman. The USSR dissolved in 1991, ongoing rounds of NATO expansion caused tensions, then cold war situation and now potentially WW3 (we have to wait and see). That's very smart right? /sarcasm

Ukraine decided to take that sweet EU bait --> the EU - Ukraine association / trade agreement proves that the EU has an agenda, NATO 2008 summit proves that NATO has an agenda.

You don't post facts, just poor excuses because you just hate Russia but the fact of the matter is that Russia (China too) will not go away and will just push back which historically always happens but people like you are too far down that rabbit hole to catch on to that.


Non-nuclear sovereign countries wanting to join Nato is not "a poor excuse" you are out of your mind, ruscist.
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Quote (Meanwhile @ May 7 2023 08:03pm)
Non-nuclear sovereign countries wanting to join Nato is not "a poor excuse" you are out of your mind, ruscist.


Correction: You're out of your mind, "progressive" trash NATO shill

Decades ago politicians understood how these things work, woke "progressive" morons took over ;)

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Quote (Djunior @ 7 May 2023 22:39)
Correction: You're out of your mind, "progressive" trash NATO shill

Decades ago politicians understood how these things work, woke "progressive" morons took over ;)


I would bet "progressive morons" are certainly not the only ones completely disagree with your putin's boots sucking-licking theories.




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