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Rights and their corresponding duties are products of the social contract.


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Ahh drumpf, the bumbling buffoon and mastermind puppeteer
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For this to be accurate Trump needs to be on a string as well and Fox needs to be holding the controller.
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For this to be accurate Trump needs to be on a string as well and Fox needs to be holding the controller.


and for further accuracy, the fox talking heads need to be on strings, attached to the companies behind their messaging...

fox and trump are a bit of a feedback loop within that system - neither of them is really masterminding the agenda, they're just the public faces of it.
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Quote (fender @ Apr 22 2020 01:15pm)
and for further accuracy, the fox talking heads need to be on strings, attached to the companies behind their messaging...



Yes, the evil capitalist boogeyman ought to be the one pulling the strings.

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Rights just can't exist without laws. There aren't just magical restrictions on behavior.

Rights are also to be discussed among equals.
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Rights just can't exist without laws. There aren't just magical restrictions on behavior.

Rights are also to be discussed among equals.


rights can be mutually agreed upon without a centralize govt. tribal societies had rights. and in a modern govt a law doesn't guarantee your rights are respected any more than in a tribal society, if anything it could be less. in a tribe such a transgression was instant death, now it can be a 50$ ticket.
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Ahh drumpf, the bumbling buffoon and mastermind puppeteer


Quote (Thor123422 @ 22 Apr 2020 19:44)
For this to be accurate Trump needs to be on a string as well and Fox needs to be holding the controller.


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rights can be mutually agreed upon without a centralize govt. tribal societies had rights. and in a modern govt a law doesn't guarantee your rights are respected any more than in a tribal society, if anything it could be less. in a tribe such a transgression was instant death, now it can be a 50$ ticket.


Rights have corresponding duties..
Means a group of people have to agree to live a certain way.

We call this a social contract :p

Tribes have laws and order. Bears don't. Bears live in a state of nature and have no rights, as we do in a state of nature.

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