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Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 20 2023 09:15am)
if ine was making claims about "the three little pigs"



make sure you put the milk in a bottle.


Bible is a fairytale just like three little pigs you can try and say it's real but in the end talking snakes, dragons etc only exist in our imagination. Some people just never grow up looks like you going to need that milk afterall
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Bible is a fairytale just like three little pigs you can try and say it's real but in the end talking snakes, dragons etc only exist in our imagination. Some people just never grow up looks like you going to need that milk afterall


ya right it becomes so because addone makes a proclamation

snake
/snāk/
1. a long limbless reptile which has no eyelids, a short tail, and jaws that are capable of considerable extension. Some snakes have a venomous bite.
2.a treacherous or deceitful person.

your dragon argument is as lame as your unicorn argument. the word dragon predates the word dinosaur
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Bible is a fairytale just like three little pigs you can try and say it's real but in the end talking snakes, dragons etc only exist in our imagination. Some people just never grow up looks like you going to need that milk afterall


The devil will use 2 underlying tactics to lead you astray.

1. The devil will convince you that you do not need The Cross for forgiveness.

2. The devil will convince you that you are too sinful to approach The Cross for forgiveness.

With you we are dealing with point 1. Ofcourse we have to use Scripture to illustrate this.

Do you see yourself as the Pharisee or the Woman?

Luke 7:36-50

Jesus Anointed by a Sinful Woman

When one of the Pharisees invited Jesus to have dinner with him, he went to the Pharisee’s house and reclined at the table. A woman in that town who lived a sinful life learned that Jesus was eating at the Pharisee’s house, so she came there with an alabaster jar of perfume. As she stood behind him at his feet weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears. Then she wiped them with her hair, kissed them and poured perfume on them.

When the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would know who is touching him and what kind of woman she is—that she is a sinner.”

Jesus answered him, “Simon, I have something to tell you.”

“Tell me, teacher,” he said.

“Two people owed money to a certain moneylender. One owed him five hundred denarii,[c] and the other fifty. Neither of them had the money to pay him back, so he forgave the debts of both. Now which of them will love him more?”

Simon replied, “I suppose the one who had the bigger debt forgiven.”

“You have judged correctly,” Jesus said.

Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.”

Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”

The other guests began to say among themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?”

Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”
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The devil will use 2 underlying tactics to lead you astray.

1. The devil will convince you that you do not need The Cross for forgiveness.

2. The devil will convince you that you are too sinful to approach The Cross for forgiveness.

With you we are dealing with point 1. Ofcourse we have to use Scripture to illustrate this.

Do you see yourself as the Pharisee or the Woman?

Luke 7:36-50

Jesus Anointed by a Sinful Woman

When one of the Pharisees invited Jesus to have dinner with him, he went to the Pharisee’s house and reclined at the table. A woman in that town who lived a sinful life learned that Jesus was eating at the Pharisee’s house, so she came there with an alabaster jar of perfume. As she stood behind him at his feet weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears. Then she wiped them with her hair, kissed them and poured perfume on them.

When the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would know who is touching him and what kind of woman she is—that she is a sinner.”

Jesus answered him, “Simon, I have something to tell you.”

“Tell me, teacher,” he said.

“Two people owed money to a certain moneylender. One owed him five hundred denarii,[c] and the other fifty. Neither of them had the money to pay him back, so he forgave the debts of both. Now which of them will love him more?”

Simon replied, “I suppose the one who had the bigger debt forgiven.”

“You have judged correctly,” Jesus said.

Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.”

Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”

The other guests began to say among themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?”

Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”


thanks for posting :)
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Feb 20 2023 09:29pm
Yes thanks for posting. Amen!
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Bible is a fairytale just like three little pigs you can try and say it's real but in the end talking snakes, dragons etc only exist in our imagination. Some people just never grow up looks like you going to need that milk afterall


I wasn't going to do this but you left me no choice. Today is the start of Lent, 40 days to Easter. My Church has signed us up to the You Version Bible App to do the Lent plan in preparation for Easter. I'm going to give you the daily Devotional, word for word, along with the Bible Verse.

Day 1: The Dust

When we come to Genesis 3, we encounter a God who curses! he responds to Adam and Eve's disobedience and the serpent's treachery decisively. With the pronouncement of each curse and judgement, there is an undoing or reversal of God's gracious creative works. Adam, who was created from the dust, is now destined to return back to it. Eve, who was created out of Adam, has now become dominated by him. The serpent, who was more crafty than any of the wild animals, is now humiliated, groveling on its belly, eating dust. In this chapter we see that sin has affected all of creation.

This text speaks to our desire to overlook our sins. God does not respond lightly to sin. Death entered the world with sin, and all manner of sorrow, suffering and despair. But the worst of the curse would fall upon a different man many millennia later as Paul said in Galatians 3:13, "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, 'Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree.'" Jesus would take upon himself a curse in order to redeem humanity's status.

Genesis 3:14-19

The Lord God said to the serpent,

“Because you have done this,
cursed are you above all livestock
and above all beasts of the field;
on your belly you shall go,
and dust you shall eat
all the days of your life.
I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and her offspring;
he shall bruise your head,
and you shall bruise his heel.”

To the woman he said,

“I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing;
in pain you shall bring forth children.
Your desire shall be contrary to your husband,
but he shall rule over you.”

And to Adam he said,

“Because you have listened to the voice of your wife
and have eaten of the tree
of which I commanded you,
‘You shall not eat of it,’
cursed is the ground because of you;
in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life;
thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you;
and you shall eat the plants of the field.
By the sweat of your face
you shall eat bread,
till you return to the ground,
for out of it you were taken;
for you are dust,
and to dust you shall return.”

Stay tuned for day 2 of 40.
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Quote (CPK001 @ Feb 22 2023 09:58pm)
I wasn't going to do this but you left me no choice. Today is the start of Lent, 40 days to Easter. My Church has signed us up to the You Version Bible App to do the Lent plan in preparation for Easter. I'm going to give you the daily Devotional, word for word, along with the Bible Verse.

Day 1: The Dust

When we come to Genesis 3, we encounter a God who curses! he responds to Adam and Eve's disobedience and the serpent's treachery decisively. With the pronouncement of each curse and judgement, there is an undoing or reversal of God's gracious creative works. Adam, who was created from the dust, is now destined to return back to it. Eve, who was created out of Adam, has now become dominated by him. The serpent, who was more crafty than any of the wild animals, is now humiliated, groveling on its belly, eating dust. In this chapter we see that sin has affected all of creation.

This text speaks to our desire to overlook our sins. God does not respond lightly to sin. Death entered the world with sin, and all manner of sorrow, suffering and despair. But the worst of the curse would fall upon a different man many millennia later as Paul said in Galatians 3:13, "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, 'Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree.'" Jesus would take upon himself a curse in order to redeem humanity's status.

Genesis 3:14-19

The Lord God said to the serpent,

“Because you have done this,
cursed are you above all livestock
and above all beasts of the field;
on your belly you shall go,
and dust you shall eat
all the days of your life.
I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and her offspring;
he shall bruise your head,
and you shall bruise his heel.”

To the woman he said,

“I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing;
in pain you shall bring forth children.
Your desire shall be contrary to your husband,
but he shall rule over you.”

And to Adam he said,

“Because you have listened to the voice of your wife
and have eaten of the tree
of which I commanded you,
‘You shall not eat of it,’
cursed is the ground because of you;
in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life;
thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you;
and you shall eat the plants of the field.
By the sweat of your face
you shall eat bread,
till you return to the ground,
for out of it you were taken;
for you are dust,
and to dust you shall return.”

Stay tuned for day 2 of 40.


I see you are stuck. You are doing that thing where you just posting quotes he said she said.

Let me try
"Okay, let me get this straight: you gonna go fight a dragon and rescue a princess just so Farquaad'll give you back your swamp, which you only don't have 'cause he filled it full of freaks in the first place. Is that about right?"
Donkey from Shrek 1

See I can just quote fairytale all day too.

What you need to do is be able to prove it, authenticate it through practical and logical means. Does this phenomena happen in real life, does it make sense, can we measure it? Replicate it? Is there an archaeological evidence etc etc.
What you are quoting me is highly improbable or outright impossible.

Talking snake.... Any talking snakes irl? TiStuff uses the argument that it's a translation for a deceitful person but that implies yhwh created 3 people not 2 so that's a fail also.
How does the serpent know evil? Unless you eat from the so called forbidden fruit? Crafty doesn't mean evil. Why would the serpent disobey yhwh to begin with? Unless he was given the option and the will to do so?

So logically this entire scene doesn't make much sense.

Where is the garden of Eden. Where is this tree, does it grow anywhere? This just sounds like a mythological story.
Why would you punish someone for making a choice that so called yhwy has presented? If yhwh didn't want to make the second choice why would he create it in the first place?
I mean not only can you not prove it the whole thing is illogical.


So other than quotes, got some evidence of the so called talking snake etc?

This post was edited by addone on Feb 22 2023 06:02am
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Quote (addone @ Feb 22 2023 03:57am)
I see you are stuck. You are doing that thing where you just posting quotes he said she said.

Let me try
"Okay, let me get this straight: you gonna go fight a dragon and rescue a princess just so Farquaad'll give you back your swamp, which you only don't have 'cause he filled it full of freaks in the first place. Is that about right?"
Donkey from Shrek 1

See I can just quote fairytale all day too.

What you need to do is be able to prove it, authenticate it through practical and logical means. Does this phenomena happen in real life, does it make sense, can we measure it? Replicate it? Is there an archaeological evidence etc etc.
What you are quoting me is highly improbable or outright impossible.

Talking snake.... Any talking snakes irl? TiStuff uses the argument that it's a translation for a deceitful person but that implies yhwh created 3 people not 2 so that's a fail also.
How does the serpent know evil? Unless you eat from the so called forbidden fruit? Crafty doesn't mean evil. Why would the serpent disobey yhwh to begin with? Unless he was given the option and the will to do so?

So logically this entire scene doesn't make much sense.

Where is the garden of Eden. Where is this tree, does it grow anywhere? This just sounds like a mythological story.
Why would you punish someone for making a choice that so called yhwy has presented? If yhwh didn't want to make the second choice why would he create it in the first place?
I mean not only can you not prove it the whole thing is illogical.


So other than quotes, got some evidence of the so called talking snake etc?


um? no
other beings existed according to the narrative. (angelic beings) the snake would be satan.
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Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 23 2023 01:42am)
um? no
other beings existed according to the narrative. (angelic beings) the snake would be satan.


How do you know snake serpent is Satan? Presuming again? What is Satan doing in the garden of Eden? How is he casually allowed to just hang out with Adam and Eve who have no clue what's good or bad? Oh no what could possibly go wrong?
This sounds like every other mythological story out there. Angels, demons, talking snakes, heaven, hell, mythological beasts, actual magic such as parting the sea with a staff like a wizard, resurrecting people from the dead, dragons, magical fruit...

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