I mean, I hope you're not actually associating those things as being causally linked with Marx.

I know nothing about property tax history so I'll keep my mouth shut on that.
Women working (at least in America) have nothing to do with Marx. Neither do their voting abilities or reproductive capabilities. War, war, and racism, in that order.
Spouse abuse and divorce are direct links to women gaining the right to vote. Which, again, not a Marx thing. Child labor I know little about.
Separation of Church and State was alive and well in America before Marx was out of diapers.

Since all of these things happened before the "Red Scare" was over in America, I'm increasingly skeptical that Marx's policies had anything to do with them locally. I'll readily admit my international ignorance on the subject, however.

you were supposed to retract your previous statement, not agree with me !

why would i retract a sarcastic statement

hard to tell these days

i mean at first i was going to say 30 million but i thought there was a small chance the sarcasm would be lost

He spent his whole life borrowing money and leeching off others lol what a champion... its like taking dietary advise from a fat person

Hey, a lot of fat people know what they're supposed to do so they can give advice. Just don't listen to their tips on willpower

Or like taking mental health counseling for schizophrenia from somebody without schizophrenia.

Ad hominem

Also, everybody lived like shit during the time of Marx. He wasn't the only destitute individual living in early industrialization. Jesus Christ you guys lack imagination sometimes.



I'm saying that these ideas started somewhere and you would be hard pressed finding anybody speak about these things before Marx in any serious way. When he talked about these things, people were legitimately shocked, as shocked as they were when Darwin said their uncle was a monkey or when Freud said, deep down, they wanted to bang their dear old ma.

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Certainly not separation of church and state. Woolstonecraft did a good bit of writing about women's issues but she sort of got thrown to the wayside.

In America these issues didn't gain traction because of Marx. Just because he wrote them down first doesn't mean their popularity stems from him. In intellectual circles his concepts definitely made a splash, but in America we had vastly different motivations driving our progress.

Don't know mate. Just can't take economic advise from a bloke that was disastrous with money.