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Oct 31 2023 03:53am
Quote (ferdia @ 31 Oct 2023 10:52)
most people dont click on links so to make things simple: On 3 October 2015, US airstrikes destroyed a trauma hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, killing 42 people.


An important footnote - Médecins Sans Frontières hospital


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Starting at 2:08am on Saturday 3 October, a United States AC-130 gunship fired 211 shells on the main hospital building where patients were sleeping in their beds or being operated on in the operating theatre.

At least 42 people were killed, including 24 patients, 14 staff and 4 caretakers. Thirty-seven people were injured.

Our patients burned in their beds, our medical staff were decapitated or lost limbs. Others were shot from the air while they fled the burning building.

The attack from the air lasted for around one hour. The main hospital building came under precise and repeated airstrikes, while the surrounding buildings were left mostly untouched.

Throughout the airstrikes our teams desperately called military authorities to stop the attack.





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Oct 31 2023 04:12am
Quote (Malopox @ Oct 31 2023 09:53am)
An important footnote - Médecins Sans Frontières hospital


I am pretty sure that the usual suspects will not respond to this or deem it "irrelevant", "collateral damage".

I mean its not hard to say bombing civilians is wrong, but I get the impression that this is not a thought process some people can comprehend anymore. some people are too fixated on the ends, Hamas destruction (which Israel wont achieve), merit the means (mass bombing of civilians) but this is going to just ensure the continuation of the viscous cycle of violence for years to come.

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Oct 31 2023 04:59am
Quote (ferdia @ Oct 31 2023 10:12am)
I am pretty sure that the usual suspects will not respond to this or deem it "irrelevant", "collateral damage".

I mean its not hard to say bombing civilians is wrong, but I get the impression that this is not a thought process some people can comprehend anymore. some people are too fixated on the ends, Hamas destruction (which Israel wont achieve), merit the means (mass bombing of civilians) but this is going to just ensure the continuation of the viscous cycle of violence for years to come.


That cycle is ensured as long as Hamas can function.

And no they can never destroy the idea of Hamas, but they can 100% remove the tangible threat inside the Gaza strip.

Hang on, so you believe Russia was justified in "defending itself" against Ukraine and the threat of NATO expansion.
But you don't think Israel is justified in its response after hundreds of terrorists murdered, captured, tortured and desecrated its civilians?

You don't think Russia should have to live next to a free and democratic Ukraine as part of NATO.

But you think Israelis should have to live next to murdering, raping, looting, torturous psychopaths?

What the fuck is wrong with all of you?

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Oct 31 2023 05:18am
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That cycle is ensured as long as Hamas can function.

And no they can never destroy the idea of Hamas, but they can 100% remove the tangible threat inside the Gaza strip.

Hang on, so you believe Russia was justified in "defending itself" against Ukraine and the threat of NATO expansion.
But you don't think Israel is justified in its response after hundreds of terrorists murdered, captured, tortured and desecrated its civilians?

You don't think Russia should have to live next to a free and democratic Ukraine as part of NATO.

But you think Israelis should have to live next to murdering, raping, looting, torturous psychopaths?

What the fuck is wrong with all of you?


This agenda is common.
Support Israel , understand that something must be done but it hurts the eyes and heart to see and hear about casualties on the other side..
unfortunately it is impossible to hold the stick on both ends. A move against Hamas means the killing of uninvolved.
Israel just started the ground invasion. I pray for our soldiers
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 31 Oct 2023 11:59)
That cycle is ensured as long as Hamas can function.

And no they can never destroy the idea of Hamas, but they can 100% remove the tangible threat inside the Gaza strip.

Hang on, so you believe Russia was justified in "defending itself" against Ukraine and the threat of NATO expansion.
But you don't think Israel is justified in its response after hundreds of terrorists murdered, captured, tortured and desecrated its civilians?

You don't think Russia should have to live next to a free and democratic Ukraine as part of NATO.

But you think Israelis should have to live next to murdering, raping, looting, torturous psychopaths?

What the fuck is wrong with all of you?


Your hatred and arrogance blinds you.
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Oct 31 2023 05:53am
Quote (Malopox @ Oct 31 2023 08:43am)
Your hatred and arrogance blinds you.


Personally I appreciate the consistency he displays in constantly having the worst opinions on any topic :thumbsup:
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Oct 31 2023 05:55am
Quote (Malopox @ Oct 31 2023 11:43am)
Your hatred and arrogance blinds you.


This is a pragmatic viewpoint.
It is your selective moralism, not mine. Have some integrity.
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Oct 31 2023 06:38am
"You should impose a ceasefire with those people"
"What people?"

"Those people firing rockets. The ones that have 200 hostages"
"Uh..."
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Oct 31 2023 08:22am
Quote (Malopox @ Oct 31 2023 04:53am)
An important footnote - Médecins Sans Frontières hospital


This was beyond fucked up. It was a hospital run by Doctors Without Borders, people doing saints work for Pennies on the dollar

US gov did acknowledge it happened and said it was unacceptable, punishing 10-20 odd people for these actions

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