I actually majored in biochemistry and then did an M.S. in computational organic chemistry / biochemistry

and I love bragging about how smart I am because of it

Sweet! So that qualifies you for what, exactly, when it comes to refuting historical fact?

Historical fact: The Revolution was led by Southern Democrats. Had the democratic candidate won, vs Lincoln, it's possible the attempted succession and Civil War may not have happened. Granted, we'd be a much shittier country today.

Historical fact: The KKK was founded by ex-confederate soldiers and backed by southern democrats, and served to weaken the political power of the governing majority Republicans as well as the southern blacks.

Modern Day Fiction: The parties somehow "switched" so all the dirty deeds of the democrats are now the fault of republicans.

Now, keep on keeping on, feller.

So who did David Duke, the current Grand Wizard of the KKK, say he supported in the last presidential election? The politics of the 1800's are all well and good but we're in the year 2020.

So who claimed that Congressman Byrd, Democratic Senator and Grand Dragon of the KKK was their greatest mentor and oldest friend, and inspired their political career?

I mean, if I wanted to discredit you, sir, I'd simply start talking about how Ebola was caused by Trump and republicans, not to mention COVID19, the earth is flat, the moon landing was a hoax, and my fount of knowledge and greatest idol on JSP is Thor123422. The fact that somebody who Trump has never met threw out that he supports somebody makes no difference whatsoever.

It's entirely possible for two people who hate each other and wouldn't mind seeing each other die to support the same idea or person, due to that person's likely impact on their goals. Duke's stated goal at the time was the end of the One Earth open border policies that allows illegal aliens to abuse our social systems. Fine, whatever. The guy's a fruit, but agreed with one of Trump's policies enough to at least claim to support him. So what? That proves nothing other than that two things can be true. I realize your critical theory courses indicate everything is black and white (probably contributing to why democrats are so racist that everything's about race), but that's just not how it is.

let's look at why you and snopes are manipulative and just wrong.
first, you are trying to mix different things into one. closing the "pandemic response team" and "refuses to take responsibility".

here's what was actually said, instead of giving it blanket meaning for everything.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/13/fauci_corrects_nbc_reporter_wanting_trump_to_take_responsibility_for_failing_i_was_talking_about_the_system.html#!


on to "firing the response team"
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

it's your claim, as well as others, that Trump has failed us for not filling this position. the positions are bogus and being done by other positions with other bogus names instead. the responsibilities were still being addressed, as i can show you now.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/17/no_the_white_house_didnt_dissolve_its_pandemic_response_office_142683.html

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/National-Biodefense-Strategy.pdf
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-memorandum-support-national-biodefense/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-modernizing-influenza-vaccines-united-states-promote-national-security-public-health/

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Apr 8 2020 08:42pm

And who does the KKK in general support then? (Hint: it's not Democrats)

I love the whataboutism for Hillary, then the immediate backpedaling on the association between a groups.

It only took me two posts to get you to abandon the importance of the "party of the KKK" talking point so you could talk about Hillary. lol

I don't care who the KKK supports, because I don't care about the KKK.

You talk about the politics of the 1800's and early 1900's but fail to understand: The KKK doesn't have millions of members, political power, or any real voice. The KKK is not violent, or a criminal entity. They're stupid people who say mean things. And most of their stated goals run along the lines of, "Well... We may have browns and blacks and Jews, but at least they're OUR browns and blacks and Jews. Since we can't hang 'em, we should at least turn them into one of US, so they become less brown or black or jew! But these other fiendish and filthy nonhumans must go!"

That's simply not reflective of anything anyone else believes. And there are what, some three thousand to seven thousand KKK members in the US? This is not something like the Democratic-driven KKK with millions of members of the past. This is a fringe group that does no violence and really has no voice. The little time they're given simply shows them as asinine pipsqueaks easily ignored. It's their right to speak their mind without reprisal, so they do, and that's that. Who gives a fuck?

And there's no "whataboutism". Hillary literally publically stated her idolism of a KKK grand dragon and YOU are excusing it. Me? I don't honestly care. I know she's a snake. One thing more or less doesn't change things. If she were a snake who stood for the working class? She would have won 2016.

And no, I'm still talking about the KKK quite squarely. You never were. You were attempting to put Trump in the same box as the KKK, when he has no dealings with them. And you got your gaping pussy hurt the moment Hillary's outright idolism of a confirmed leader of the KKK was pointed out.

You lack consistency. As with all critical theory majors.

Damn, it seems you are genuinely not able to follow a conversation for even a few posts. I wasn't trying to lump Trump with anything. I was pointing out that there has been a political realignment, and the KKK currently supports the Republican Party. So your "party of the KKK" bullshit can just go fuck itself.



It seems when challenged your default tactic is to just spam as many stupid claims as possible so you can avoid having to own up to any one mistake.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 8 2020 09:19pm

First, you never stated there was political realignment, but I already addressed that, and your mythical tooth fairy of "Republicans are at fault for the actions of Democrats" has already been addressed.

It seems when challenged your tactic is simply to pretend the rest of the conversation never existed, and you've magically won some kind of mythical "point" over some mythical "reversal".

As I said, let go of critical theory for a while. The primary reason I'm an Independent is so I can stick with the policies and not judge the parties by yesterday. Merely by how they benefit the working class TODAY. And right now, TODAY (at least, the today the day before lockdown went into place) the working class is in a MUCH better place than it was in 2016. There are more jobs, they're paying more, and they're being taxed less. Purchasing power is up, the economy is up, quite literally everything is better. Now, if you talk TODAY TODAY, COVID19 is destroying everything, except it's not. Panic-stricken anti-trumpers seem to be driving more policy than the CDC, and the people who're going to suffer, as usual, from EVERY leftist action, is the working class.

Meantime, you're talking about how naughty Trump is with the Stimulus, and I'm thinking, "Man, $2400 between Sarah and I means we can avoid being evicted for 2 extra months while we have next to no work income due to hour cuts." It doesn't matter to you because you don't live in the real world. Neither do your Antifa buddies, neither do any of your little friends and/or supporters who have parents with six figures in the bank. You aren't on the bottom end. Stop trying to speak for the bottom end.

This COVID shit goes on for more than a few months longer, we'll lose our home, our ability to legally drive our vehicles, our health insurance, quite literally everything. AND due to contractual obligations, we'll go into debts we probably won't be able to pay. This has REAL impact on us. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about with your talk of "irresponsible stimulus". If it weren't for the stimulus, I'd gladly stab you in the back, steal your wallet, and pay my rent, because I don't give a fuck about you. And THAT, friend, is what YOU should start to worry about.