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I hope he gets corona virus.
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Another case of Trump saying mean things. No brain mouth filter, and no need for proof, he just talks shit like a fucking natural. His campaign and the RNC did nothing to backup the claim, and even attempted damage control.

Same with his claims that McCain wasn't a war hero, because getting captured doesn't make one a hero. True, false, doesn't matter. He just talks shit. He does it every day in speeches and on Twitter, and he has since the 80's.

No campaign has been centered around it though. That's just Trump saying mean things, which is par for the course. The day Trump starts becoming a nice, friendly person who's completely socially acceptable will be the day I suspect Trump is terminally ill and about to die.



Frankly, it came across as nothing more than a mean spirited joke to me, and I'm not gonna lie, I laughed.

And if you look at some of what the Cruz campaign did regarding Kassich, fuck him anyhow, he deserved the mean words. ;)


You give Trump a pass for virtually everything but single out less egregious things on the left and paint them as representative of the whiole.
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No, I am quite absolutely sure that it is extremely out of bounds by all conventions of civility,


Then you arent familiar with American politics at even the most basic level. We are, as a culture, heavily desensitized to violence and hypersensitive to sex, especially conservatives.

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You give Trump a pass for virtually everything but single out less egregious things on the left and paint them as representative of the whiole.


Bone spur draft dodger shouldn't talk about people who served. He can't do that until his balls actually drop. He still waiting to inherit his father's balls.

This is why hes great at talking shit behind people's back but won't say it to their face.



Remember when he completely pussed out to Theresa May? He cannot deal with strong women at all.... Is used to prostitutes and mail order brides. That is why Pelosi is crushing him as domestically as Sergei Lavrov is crushing him in abroad.

Then here are the cultists who bought in completely to demagoguery...no point in even talking to them because they're all pathos pathos pathos and hide it. They will just lie to you and to themselves to protect internal consistency. Doublethink is real. They will repeat whatever stupid and outlandish thing he says and if it is too far beyond the pale then it wasnt serious or a joke.

Fact is we have a president that hates most Americans. He makes fun of disabled Americans. He detests the working class. He has all these dumb hillbillies that love the shit out of him now because he probly says the N word in private.

You could see this coming down-the-line once the right wing adopted Saul Alinsky's tactics in creating the tea party. Wasn't long until the GOP fully committed to white identity politics. Now we have the David Duke president.

Well David Duke president is gonna lead to a Louis Farrakhan president and people will be like what the fuck happened.

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Another case of Trump saying mean things. No brain mouth filter, and no need for proof, he just talks shit like a fucking natural. His campaign and the RNC did nothing to backup the claim, and even attempted damage control.

Same with his claims that McCain wasn't a war hero, because getting captured doesn't make one a hero. True, false, doesn't matter. He just talks shit. He does it every day in speeches and on Twitter, and he has since the 80's.

No campaign has been centered around it though. That's just Trump saying mean things, which is par for the course. The day Trump starts becoming a nice, friendly person who's completely socially acceptable will be the day I suspect Trump is terminally ill and about to die.



Frankly, it came across as nothing more than a mean spirited joke to me, and I'm not gonna lie, I laughed.

And if you look at some of what the Cruz campaign did regarding Kassich, fuck him anyhow, he deserved the mean words. ;)


So, you're saying that Trump is saying mean and mean-spirited stuff all the time, but according to you, the idea that he's using nasty tactics is complete BS - seriously?


Oh yeah, shoutout to goom and ice for providing examples for my earlier claim that GOP primaries always devolve into gigantic shitshows.



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You could see this coming down-the-line once the right wing adopted Saul Alinsky's tactics in creating the tea party. Wasn't long until the GOP fully committed to white identity politics. Now we have the David Duke president.


White identity politics have been a part of the GOP messaging since the days of Nixon, it's really not a new invention. Also note that Trump's overt embrace of it only came after the left had started openly embracing various flavors of leftist identity politics, like e.g. BLM.
The U.S. is on an unhealthy escalation spiral of polarization and identity-group based hostility, and has been since long before the tea party. What happened from 2010 onward is only the latest chapter.

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So, you're saying that Trump is saying mean and mean-spirited stuff all the time, but according to you, the idea that he's using nasty tactics is complete BS - seriously?


Oh yeah, shoutout to goom and ice for providing examples for my earlier claim that GOP primaries always devolve into gigantic shitshows.





White identity politics have been a part of the GOP messaging since the days of Nixon, it's really not a new invention. Also note that Trump's overt embrace of it only came after the left had started openly embracing various flavors of leftist identity politics, like e.g. BLM.
The U.S. is on an unhealthy escalation spiral of polarization and identity-group based hostility, and has been since long before the tea party. What happened from 2010 onward is only the latest chapter.


This chapter is an intense escalation and basically The Empire Strikes Back of the series.
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White identity politics have been a part of the GOP messaging since the days of Nixon, it's really not a new invention. Also note that Trump's overt embrace of it only came after the left had started openly embracing various flavors of leftist identity politics, like e.g. BLM.
The U.S. is on an unhealthy escalation spiral of polarization and identity-group based hostility, and has been since long before the tea party. What happened from 2010 onward is only the latest chapter.


that's such BS. trump has been a racist all his life. central park five, renter discrimination, birtherism... pretending it's a more or less justified REaction to identity politics is yet another one of your shitty excuses to make him look less bad...
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that's such BS. trump has been a racist all his life. central park five, renter discrimination, birtherism... pretending it's a more or less justified REaction to identity politics is yet another one of your shitty excuses to make him look less bad...


I was not talking about the the history of Trump's personal beliefs, I was talking about his political ascent. In 2008, or even 2012, someone like him would not have been able to get away with his unabashed appeals to white identity politics. It was not before 2016 that the time was ripe for someone like him to stage a hostile takeover of the Republican party. Only after Democrats had started publicly siding with leftist identity politics was it possibly for a politician on the right to dump the dog whistle and openly embrace white identity politics.


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This chapter is an intense escalation and basically The Empire Strikes Back of the series.


Let's just hope there wont be a shitty sequel trilogy ^_^

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Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 8 2020 02:41am)
Oh and George W. Bush and Karl Rove never went after McCain's black daughter, that was just whispers by completely independent actors who had nothing to do with Karl Rove. Anyone claiming otherwise is just peddling elaborate conspiracy bullshit
And Colbert SuperPAC never once coordinated with Stephen Colbert

for real? You're really going to hide Ted Cruz behind plausible deniability? I'm amazed, I didn't think there was a living soul on this planet that actually likes Ted Cruz


Do you think major candidates approve every ad run by every super PAC that supports them? That makes zero sense. It wasn't even a TV spot... it was a Facebook ad... targeting Utah... lol.

Like always, you try to work backwards to defend the indefensible.

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No, I am quite absolutely sure that it is extremely out of bounds by all conventions of civility, and if used against anyone who wasn't named Trump, it would spark the kind of backlash that ends careers in the age of cancel culture. I did not sit in a cave on mars with my fingers in my ears all those years feminists decried slut shaming and sexual bullying and talked about empowering women. When hollywood actresses who have posed nude or been in nude scenes go out on a political crusade- actually joining the political theater rather than being family members- nobody is allowed to go plaster their nude pics as a legitimized political smear. Not in 2020. Maybe in 1920.

Its weird how despite your ostensible obsession with character and decorum in politics, you're all too happy to excuse one of the most disgusting and dirty moments of the last campaign. You've spent the past 3 years clutching pearls every time Trump farts in an elevator, but when anyone anti-Trump does something flagrantly wrong and inexcusable, its time for rationalizations and dismissals.


Thor is right... it's not surprising at all that Melania's choice to be a nude model would get exploited. Sure, in popular culture that sort of thing is frowned upon these days, but there's plenty of people with more traditional values who would view it as a legitimate avenue of attack.

Personally I don't like it. It's not necessary to go there. But blaming Cruz is silly and Trump's response was out of line. I'm not obsessed with character, I just didn't join the bandwagon 5 years ago of people who started pretending character never mattered.


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