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Apr 30 2020 10:20pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 30 2020 09:15pm)
The US isn't a capitalist utopia




Certificates of need, overbearing FDA requirements/costs, and the patent swamp system giving lengthy artificial monopolies are all examples of government regulations hindering the healthcare situation in the US.

Out of curiosity, What point do you imagine I was roasted on?


You never proved your point.. which regulations are bad?
Easy to state XXX is bad.. Doesn't mean you have any valid point

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Quote (GLYC123 @ Apr 30 2020 11:18pm)
The only reason you say zero-cost is because none of this has any exact details on how it's going to work. It's obvious this would cost tons of money.


Nope, I say it would be zero cost because none of that would get enacted if the GND passed. The GND is unenforceable BS from a freshman congressperson. The right hates strong women so they looked for any opportunity to smear her and keep smearing her, so they glombed on to this nothingburger.
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Trump almost for sure.
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All the iguanas wanna vote Biden, but they don’t got the numbers to swing it.
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Apr 30 2020 10:46pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 1 2020 12:18am)
Patents i agree with,the rest were direct actions BECAUSE your shitty system didn't work.


Or because various factions worked with government to benefit themselves, and an array of other reasons.


Like I was saying: The US and its healthcare industry are not a capitalist utopia like you claimed, and the potential alternatives for healthcare are not limited to how good the US or Australia is now.

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Quote (cambovenzi @ 1 May 2020 06:46)
Or because various factions worked with government to benefit themselves, and an array of other reasons.


Like I was saying: The US and its healthcare industry are not a capitalist utopia like you claimed, and the potential alternatives for healthcare are not limited to how good the US or Australia is now.


you keep criticising the objectively better (cheaper / available to everyone) systems that have a long and proven history of working, but you never offer an alternative that works under your preferred conditions.

assuming all those "excess regulations", that you think are responsible for the flaws in the current system, were gone, do you genuinely assume that healthcare would then be cheap, available to everybody, and safe? and if so, what do you base that on? which country, in your opinion, has the best healthcare system? which model should the US go for?

this is THE opportunity for you to demonstrate how viable and superior libertarianism is, don't waste it.
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"Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down," Trump told Alex Jones during a Wednesday afternoon appearance on the Infowars.com proprietor's show.



https://twitter.com/BarstoolNewsN/status/1256223127937392640




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Trump just endorsed domestic terrorism. If they're brown they're terrorists, if white then it's a 'militia'.
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Quote (fender @ May 1 2020 06:12am)
you keep criticising the objectively better (cheaper / available to everyone) systems that have a long and proven history of working, but you never offer an alternative that works under your preferred conditions.

assuming all those "excess regulations", that you think are responsible for the flaws in the current system, were gone, do you genuinely assume that healthcare would then be cheap, available to everybody, and safe? and if so, what do you base that on? which country, in your opinion, has the best healthcare system? which model should the US go for?

this is THE opportunity for you to demonstrate how viable and superior libertarianism is, don't waste it.


Wrong.

Wrong.

Yes cutting down on excess regulations would make healthcare cheaper and more available. Thats common sense.
I base this on years of reading, understanding important concepts and relevant information and having at least double your IQ.

Copying a current countries model is not what I propose.
Several countries like Switzerland have effectively used market oriented strategies to provide better care than the fully nationalized systems.
The US also has many of the best doctors and hospitals in a more capitalist system, albeit a hampered and extremely regulated one. We can do better.

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Trump just endorsed domestic terrorism. If they're brown they're terrorists, if white then it's a 'militia'.


Protesting against government isn't terrorism
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