But it is twice as expensive in your capitalist utopia.

Kind of a dubious conclusion as you arent measuring quality or quantity of healthcare with those numbers, but thats besides the point.

My point is not to say American healthcare is the pinnacle.
The US system is extremely hampered by excess regulations.

My point is that the alternative to government healthcare is not inherently 'more expensive and more deaths' as he presumed.
There are a variety of ways market oriented approaches can improve healthcare.

sometimes regulations are good.
Please prove your point on which regulations are bad.
Getting roasted on you own point must suck

Twice as high?
Almost identical until you are earning over $180,000 per year then 7% more, however your healthcare is 100% more on average.

assuming all those "excess regulations" were gone, do you genuinely assume that healthcare would then be cheap, available to everybody, and safe? and if so, what do you base that on? which country, in your opinion, has the best healthcare system? which model should the US go for?

fender its not your fault he can't prove any of his claims.
just making random statement with no way to validate, just proves he can't think outside of a paper bag.
he should just sign all of his posts
1488-

He can't prove them because 2000 years of history prove them wrong.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Apr 30 2020 10:14pm

The US isn't a capitalist utopia




Certificates of need, overbearing FDA requirements/costs, and the patent swamp system giving lengthy artificial monopolies are all examples of government regulations hindering the healthcare situation in the US.

Out of curiosity, What point do you imagine I was roasted on?

Patents i agree with, the rest were direct actions BECAUSE your shitty system didn't work.

Goals for within 10 years to be at 100% clean energy.

"(1) (referred to in this
20 resolution as the ‘‘Green New Deal goals’’) should
21 be accomplished through a 10-year national mobili-
22 zation (referred to in this resolution as the ‘‘Green
23 New Deal mobilization’’) that will require the fol-
24 lowing goals and projects—"


(C) meeting 100 percent of the power de-
19 mand in the United States through clean, re-
20 newable, and zero-emission energy sources, in-
21 cluding—
22 (i) by dramatically expanding and up-
23 grading renewable power sources; and
24 (ii) by deploying new capacity;


Also, a set of goals that include "ensuring a commercial environment where every businessperson is free from unfair competition and domination".

No definition of what 'unfair competition and domination' is, however, that doesn't sound like Capitalism to me.


" (B) ensuring that the Federal Government
12 takes into account the complete environmental
13 and social costs and impacts of emissions
14 through—
15 (i) existing laws;
16 (ii) new policies and programs; and
17 (iii) ensuring that frontline and vul-
18 nerable communities shall not be adversely
19 affected;
20 (C) providing. "

And goals to create future laws and control over the situation.


(E) upgrading all existing buildings in the
5 United States and building new buildings to
6 achieve maximum energy efficiency, water effi-
7 ciency, safety, affordability, comfort, and dura-
8 bility, including through electrification

It also mentions upgrading all buildings energy sources, that's a zero cost action?


The only reason you say zero-cost is because none of this has any exact details on how it's going to work. It's obvious this would cost tons of money..

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Apr 30 2020 10:21pm