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Apr 3 2020 10:54am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 3 2020 11:46am)
Agreed tbh.

Biden’s son was like a 2 day ordeal with very little news coverage compared to the exponential bitching and moaning about literally everything Trump does.


Because it was a conspiracy theory from the start. There was never anything a scandal about Biden's son was gonna uncover.

Meanwhile Trump's interferrence with the DOJ is a level of corruption that would have made Nixon blush. Trump has taken many many actually unprecedented actions so it's normal that even the less egregious would get more coverage. It fits a larger pattern of obvious incompetence and corruption.

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Apr 3 2020 10:59am
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Because it was a conspiracy theory from the start. There was never anything a scandal about Biden's son was gonna uncover.


I literally looked through the bank statements that linked Burisma & LLC's tied to people like Hunter Biden and other prominent people.

There's no conspiracy there. The data dump was posted on here awhile back.
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Apr 3 2020 11:05am
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Because it was a conspiracy theory from the start. There was never anything a scandal about Biden's son was gonna uncover.

Meanwhile Trump's interferrence with the DOJ is a level of corruption that would have made Nixon blush. Trump has taken many many actually unprecedented actions so it's normal that even the less egregious would get more coverage. It fits a larger pattern of obvious incompetence and corruption.


for the life of me i'll never understand why liberals choose Hunter Biden as a hill to die on. is polarization truly that bad?

he was clearly unqualified to sit on any board, he's a military flunk out black sheep who was paid large amounts of money to curry favor with Papa Joe in the hopes it would lead to business opportunities. conspiracy theory? this pay to play shit happens every day with boards of billion dollar corporations worldwide. at best it needs to stop, at worst there's actual illegal activity.
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Apr 3 2020 11:15am
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for the life of me i'll never understand why liberals choose Hunter Biden as a hill to die on. is polarization truly that bad?

he was clearly unqualified to sit on any board, he's a military flunk out black sheep who was paid large amounts of money to curry favor with Papa Joe in the hopes it would lead to business opportunities. conspiracy theory? this pay to play shit happens every day with boards of billion dollar corporations worldwide. at best it needs to stop, at worst there's actual illegal activity.


Oh yeah, that kind of pay to play shit happens all the time, but that's the thing. This kind of "corruption" is how the whole world works (I only quote corruption because it's the kind of thing right wingers will usually defend until they are blue in the face). There wasn't some grand conspiracy, people put children of power people on boards to curry favor constantly and it's not really worth investigating unless we have some actual evidence of illegal activity, which we did not.

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Apr 3 2020 11:17am
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Oh yeah, that kind of pay to play shit happens all the time, but that's the thing. This kind of "corruption" is how the whole world works (I only quote corruption because it's the kind of thing right wingers will usually defend until they are blue in the face). There wasn't some grand conspiracy, people put children of power people on boards to curry favor constantly and it's not really worth investigating unless we have some actual evidence of illegal activity, which we did not.


worth investigating with federal tax dollars? perhaps not, but for upper level govt employees like Potus, Vpotus, speakers, SCOTUS judges, etc. it does factor in how high up they are given the level of changes they can make.

worth investigating with the media and beating these fuckers to a pulp like a dead horse until they realize its not a great idea when they can just give their fuckup kids a few million and a guest house? absolutely, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Hunter, Joe, and everyone else involved should be put under a media spotlight even if it never leads to charges.
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Apr 3 2020 11:26am
My memory might be wrong, but wasnt the Hunter Biden thing mainly played up because Trump's impeachment defense hinged on it? The question if there was good enough reason to suspect something illegal was going on with Burisma and Hunter Biden , whether there was enough to justify launching a probe, that's what determines whether Trump was weaponizing the goverment against his rival in improper fashion or whether his actions were justifiable.

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Apr 3 2020 11:33am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 3 2020 12:26pm)
My memory might be wrong, but wasnt the Hunter Biden thing mainly played up because Trump's impeachment defense hinged on it? The question if there was good enough reason to suspect something illegal was going on with Burisma and Hunter Biden , whether there was enough to justify launching a probe, that's what determines whether Trump was weaponizing the goverment against his rival in improper fashion or whether his actions were justifiable.


unless im wrong the Biden stuff was last wave. after they basically didnt find enough evidence to impeach on the potential crimes impeding Mueller it was the last arrow in the quiver. so in a way it hinged on it, but i'd say it was more of a straw that broke the camel's back hope.
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Apr 3 2020 11:36am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 3 2020 12:26pm)
My memory might be wrong, but wasnt the Hunter Biden thing mainly played up because Trump's impeachment defense hinged on it? The question if there was good enough reason to suspect something illegal was going on with Burisma and Hunter Biden , whether there was enough to justify launching a probe, that's what determines whether Trump was weaponizing the goverment against his rival in improper fashion or whether his actions were justifiable.


More or less.

Trump knew about it for a long time and only started the investigation when Biden became the frontrunner for the Democratic primary. We can talk about whether or not that kind of thing (hiring kids of powerful people to curry favor) is right or not, but the fact is if you deem it wrong you've got basically everybody in the world to investigate, and since this conversation started with the idea of selective outrage, that basically means Republicans are even worse about it because they aren't freaking out about literally everybody.
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Apr 3 2020 11:39am
hunter biden is a small fish compared to what kushner and ivanka for example leveraged out of their positions in this administration. does that mean it's ok? of course not - ALL those corrupt politicians, their families and friends, that use their name and connections in order to make millions of dollars, are basically spitting in the face of working class people. they all belong behind bars, but that would require laws that are NOT written by people who who created and thrived in that system. that's why it's so crazy that people still vote for those guys, and defend those practices, like our resident establishment shills.

the only reason hunter biden keeps coming up, while ivanka's nepotism for example is largely ignored, is because the majority of right wingers is just shamelessly hypocritical. it's convenient for false equivalences (as demonstrated by the usual hacks in this thread), and also served as the main excuse for trump's withholding of congressionally sanctioned aid to an ally at war, in order to get dirt on his domestic political opponent.
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Apr 3 2020 01:14pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 3 2020 10:05am)
for the life of me i'll never understand why liberals choose Hunter Biden as a hill to die on. is polarization truly that bad?

he was clearly unqualified to sit on any board, he's a military flunk out black sheep who was paid large amounts of money to curry favor with Papa Joe in the hopes it would lead to business opportunities. conspiracy theory? this pay to play shit happens every day with boards of billion dollar corporations worldwide. at best it needs to stop, at worst there's actual illegal activity.


I have no desire to die on the hill for Hunter.. But if you are this mad at this.. How is Kushner part of the WH.. and now leading the coronavirus task force.. I guess he as qualified as his father in law.
But holy hell if you are mad at Biden you should be having a stroke over Jared and Ivanka.
You call double standard, as you stand on one.
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