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Apr 2 2020 12:58pm
Quote (Skinned @ Apr 2 2020 12:47pm)
Im not talking about hanging with neighbors.

I am talking about the redistribution of wealth by the government.

You don't need to correct me, I'm not mistaken.

Being social isn't paying taxes and having that money go to strangers. That is being socialist. We're not loaning friends money lol.

Socialistic. I'm aware people do not own the means of production.


No, it isn't. Socialism is:

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a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.


Being social:

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living or disposed to live in companionship with others or in a community, rather than in isolation


Taking care of your neighbors when shit hits the fan is being social, not being socialist. You can be a wonderful, caring human being and still want the government to stay out of your life.
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Apr 2 2020 01:07pm
gotta love how quickly right wing hacks 'learned' a somewhat accurate definition of 'socialism' in order to defend certain measures. i bet they will immediately 'unlearn' it to smear progressives though.
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Apr 2 2020 01:09pm
Quote (fender @ Apr 2 2020 02:07pm)
gotta love how quickly right wing hacks 'learned' a somewhat accurate definition of 'socialism' in order to defend certain measures. i bet they will immediately 'unlearn' it to smear progressives though.


"...and in today's episode of being a passive aggressive little bitch."

This post was edited by Santara on Apr 2 2020 01:09pm
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Apr 2 2020 01:21pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 2 2020 02:58pm)
No, it isn't. Socialism is:



Being social:



Taking care of your neighbors when shit hits the fan is being social, not being socialist. You can be a wonderful, caring human being and still want the government to stay out of your life.


OK but we are not talking about helping our neighbors informally. We are talking about the government redistributing wealth.

There is nothing wrong with this I've always been cool with this. As long as there is the consent of the governed.

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#36435
Apr 2 2020 01:38pm
Santara doesn't follow the rules... WAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Don't you have an unfounded assertion to prove?

Quote (Skinned @ Apr 2 2020 02:21pm)
OK but we are not talking about helping our neighbors informally. We are talking about the government redistributing wealth.

There is nothing wrong with this I've always been cool with this. As long as there is the consent of the governed.


Since when does it matter if it's formal or informal?
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Apr 2 2020 02:26pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 2 2020 01:58pm)
No, it isn't. Socialism is:

Being social:

Taking care of your neighbors when shit hits the fan is being social, not being socialist. You can be a wonderful, caring human being and still want the government to stay out of your life.


The right of this country spent nearly ten years destroying the definition of socialism. There isn't a single universally accepted definition anymore, at least in America. Semantics arguments are usually crap, but in the case of the definition of socialism, it's double crap.
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Apr 2 2020 04:05pm
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The right of this country spent nearly ten years destroying the definition of socialism. There isn't a single universally accepted definition anymore, at least in America. Semantics arguments are usually crap, but in the case of the definition of socialism, it's double crap.


Words mean things.
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Apr 2 2020 04:11pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 2 2020 06:05pm)
Words mean things.


Words mean what people want them to mean
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Apr 2 2020 04:25pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 2 2020 05:05pm)
Words mean things.


And yet when I say "I just ordered oogaooga" my dad understands that I just got off the phone with pizza hut, and my coworker understands that when I say 'Today is wednesday" it means the most unpleasant person I work with is nearby.
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Apr 2 2020 04:27pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 2 2020 03:05pm)
Words mean things.


Not false definitions of socialism..
those words mean nothing, just dog whistles
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