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Feb 15 2023 01:36pm
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What does elohim mean in old Hebrew? And why does this bible God so afraid if people worship other gods?

Could it be there are other gods? Why would you worry about people worshipping someone else when you are the only one?


you actually got it right. capital "G" God the God of the bible the creator God. lower case "g" god are a dime a dozen many many gods. one could say alcohol was once my god.

lets look at the scripture
Exodus 34:14
King James Version
14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
(you see "...no other god" is a lower case "g". while the God of the bible is represented with a upper case "G"

What does Elohim literally mean?
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Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים, romanized: ʾĔlōhīm: [(ʔ)eloˈ(h)im]), the plural of אֱלוֹהַּ‎ (ʾĔlōah), is a Hebrew word meaning "gods". Although the word is plural, in the Hebrew Bible it usually takes a singular verb and refers to a single deity, particularly (but not always) the God of Israel.

Elohim - Wikipedia
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Feb 15 2023 02:01pm
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Exodus 34:14

"Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God."


A god of fear and violence which is only leading to the fall of christianity. This is 2023.
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Feb 15 2023 05:29pm
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A god of fear and violence which is only leading to the fall of christianity. This is 2023.


thats an old testament and isolate over simplification, but yes regarding fear and righteous anger. perhaps pre emptive defending of ones own kind.

Quote (addone @ Feb 15 2023 02:22am)
What does elohim mean in old Hebrew? And why does this bible God so afraid if people worship other gods?

Could it be there are other gods? Why would you worry about people worshipping someone else when you are the only one?


the same reason a parent would say dont go into foster care.


got em.

Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 15 2023 11:36am)
you actually got it right. capital "G" God the God of the bible the creator God. lower case "g" god are a dime a dozen many many gods. one could say alcohol was once my god.

lets look at the scripture
Exodus 34:14
King James Version
14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
(you see "...no other god" is a lower case "g". while the God of the bible is represented with a upper case "G"

What does Elohim literally mean?
gods
Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים, romanized: ʾĔlōhīm: [(ʔ)eloˈ(h)im]), the plural of אֱלוֹהַּ‎ (ʾĔlōah), is a Hebrew word meaning "gods". Although the word is plural, in the Hebrew Bible it usually takes a singular verb and refers to a single deity, particularly (but not always) the God of Israel.

Elohim - Wikipedia



they are making it too easy. this whole atheist vs christian thing is way too boring. out of home thinking required

This post was edited by lodd222 on Feb 15 2023 05:37pm
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Feb 15 2023 05:39pm
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thats an old testament and isolate over simplification, but yes regarding fear and righteous anger. perhaps pre emptive defending of ones own kind.


There's plenty of that: a god of wrath, jealous, asking for submission... Toxic relationship ? This is old testament and more likely "the jewish god style".
100% sure Evangelists are picking up stuff from here time to time when they want to scare children or simple minded with Hell, Death etc...
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There's plenty of that: a god of wrath, jealous, asking for submission... Toxic relationship ? This is old testament and more likely "the jewish god style".
100% sure Evangelists are picking up stuff from here time to time when they want to scare children or simple minded with Hell, Death etc...


the question to ask is if your children were getting diddled by pedos, would you wipe out the ones responsible and their children who would grow up into it according to that logic.
i would agree its very absolute and over the top, but its assuming narration from divine insight into the unsavable nature of those kinds of people.

realistically you would do what? modern christians would try to save them so i dont think its negatively affects the bulk populua or luke warm Christians of today at all imo.

i think you have to stop blaming christians for violence. its like african americans blaming the modern white man for their past enslavement. clearly its in the past and time to focus on exposing displacement and projection.
according to the sciences it would be discrimination and generalization. - people are very good at generalizing and very poor at discriminating between stimuli. discrimination is known to cause anxiety because the viewer is uncertain of the outcome, that leads to uncomfortable perception.

aetheists need more humbling in their 1% understanding of the world. And christians need to stop assuming benevolent god. they both need more basic math and deductive reasoning.

the world is intelligent design but that does not mean its a good thing. im not a faith based believer, i look rationally at whats going on and test the spirit of the claim that is being made.
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Feb 15 2023 07:54pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Feb 15 2023 12:01pm)
A god of fear and violence which is only leading to the fall of christianity. This is 2023.


your only real gripe is facing judgement. your like a spoiled brat that want his own way

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the question to ask is if your children were getting diddled by pedos, would you wipe out the ones responsible and their children who would grow up into it according to that logic.
i would agree its very absolute and over the top, but its assuming narration from divine insight into the unsavable nature of those kinds of people.

realistically you would do what? modern christians would try to save them so i dont think its negatively affects the bulk populua or luke warm Christians of today at all imo.

i think you have to stop blaming christians for violence. its like african americans blaming the modern white man for their past enslavement. clearly its in the past and time to focus on exposing displacement and projection.
according to the sciences it would be discrimination and generalization. - people are very good at generalizing and very poor at discriminating between stimuli. discrimination is known to cause anxiety because the viewer is uncertain of the outcome, that leads to uncomfortable perception.

aetheists need more humbling in their 1% understanding of the world. And christians need to stop assuming benevolent god. they both need more basic math and deductive reasoning.

the world is intelligent design but that does not mean its a good thing. im not a faith based believer, i look rationally at whats going on and test the spirit of the claim that is being made.


every one is a faith based believer. faith is just another word for trust and you have much trust in your own understanding
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Feb 15 2023 08:00pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 15 2023 05:54pm)
your only real gripe is facing judgement. your like a spoiled brat that want his own way



every one is a faith based believer. faith is just another word for trust and you have much trust in your own understanding



true, so id be clarifying that i trust myself as that beacon and not the externalization of god among peers, and thats what religion has become..

worshipping something other than the god energy a person ought to be or house. an omniopotent god like the one in the bible cannot give you more than you can bare yes?

long torture or suffering disproves bible theology. god cant treat you worse than those under neath you that you also take care of well. even the story of job exposes this.

if it does the spirit of that claim is exposed as fraudulent or atleast not perfect or all righteous.

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Feb 16 2023 01:25am
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 16 2023 08:36am)
you actually got it right. capital "G" God the God of the bible the creator God. lower case "g" god are a dime a dozen many many gods. one could say alcohol was once my god.

lets look at the scripture
Exodus 34:14
King James Version
14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
(you see "...no other god" is a lower case "g". while the God of the bible is represented with a upper case "G"

What does Elohim literally mean?
gods
Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים, romanized: ʾĔlōhīm: [(ʔ)eloˈ(h)im]), the plural of אֱלוֹהַּ‎ (ʾĔlōah), is a Hebrew word meaning "gods". Although the word is plural, in the Hebrew Bible it usually takes a singular verb and refers to a single deity, particularly (but not always) the God of Israel.

Elohim - Wikipedia


If you are applying euphemisms to God in a form of alcohol, money etc one could also apply with the same logic that the so called God you been worshipping isn't a God but a deified ruler or a general of some kind. A common practice at a time when Romans made Julius Ceaser into a God. The jealousy and many other attributes are akin to a man rather some deity.

You are viewing the bible through a translated and twisted filter of the church. There is obviously other Gods that have existed or made up well before Christianity. Christianity is simply a new kid on the block with no proof other then it's word claims that it is the shiz and the biz. Many authors of the so called bible are a complete mystery. Almost as if it could of been written by anyone. Literally anyone could of been writing their daily news and go off on a rant about God. Who knows which God they were talking about. We have no idea if they are talking about Satan or Zeus. They just say elohim.

You are simply worshipping one of those gods called "Jealous"

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Feb 16 2023 06:45am
Quote (TiStuff @ 16 Feb 2023 02:54)
your only real gripe is facing judgement. your like a spoiled brat that want his own way


I have values: example:

"You can't pretend to be a Christian when you promote guys like Donald Trump."
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Feb 16 2023 04:45am)
I have values: example:

"You can't pretend to be a Christian when you promote guys like Donald Trump."



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