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Oct 29 2023 05:24pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 29 2023 04:10pm)
Black Hebrew Israelites vs pro Palestinian protestors in Chicago:

https://x.com/tpostmillennial/status/1718730368625647653?s=46&t=Clvaf6rKkSLkdAtdE744Gg

Who had this on their bingo cards for 2023?

white leftists bros really in a pickle here on who to support


Rabid dogs doing rabid dog things

Antisemites eating each other is always fun to see

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 29 2023 05:25pm
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Oct 29 2023 06:02pm
Quote (ferdia @ 29 Oct 2023 17:39)
Whats your view on the settlements ? Surely you can accept that stealing more and more land (and all the other stuff) is a trigger for protest ?

Sure, I've already stressed multiple times that the settlements need to stop and that I consider them a huge mistake.

But just to be clear: 1.) The illegal settlements mostly affect the Palestinians living in the West Bank, not those in Gaza. 2.) There are no possible circumstances under which the indiscriminate kidnapping, torture, rape and slaughter of civilians would be a legitimate form of "protest".
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Oct 29 2023 06:15pm
Quote (fender @ 29 Oct 2023 17:46)
dishonest take is dishonest. israel's illegal and cruel ACTIONS, its violations of international law and human rights are not retro-actively "justified" by the radical RHETORIC of those oppressed by it.

if you abduct your neighbour and lock him into your basement, and he threatens to kill you, you can't then turn around and say "i was right to imprison you, you're a violent savage".

again, anyone who suggests that a palestinian STATE would actually try to wage war against the overwhelming military power of israel is either completely clueless or outright lying. iran is an infinitely more powerful state than palestine could ever be, and they hate israel's guts - but they would NEVER actually attack them, because they know how badly that would backfire given the nukes and the allies israel has. we've been over this, you dishonest apartheid apologist. how often do you want that moronic talking point to be publicly debunked?

What the fuck are you babbling about? Israel is not just faced with rhetoric, they are faced with tangible action. On 7/8, Hamas terrorists slaughtered over a thousand Israeli civilians, an act which was cheered by very substantial portions of the people in Gaza, but also the wider Muslim world. Speaking of which, the three different occasions (1948, 67, 73) on which Israel's Arab neighbors teamed up to wage war against them, most likely with genocidal intent, are also far more than just "rhetoric".

Regarding an autonomous, sovereign Palestinian state: it's safe to assume that they would use their newfound sovereignty to use their territory as a deployment zone for troops from their Iranian allies - the Iranians which have publicly vowed to wipe Israel out for the past 40+ years, the Iranians which have already done this exact thing in Lebanon and Syria, the Iranians which have used the financial wiggle room that Obama's goodwill afforded them to fund a proxy war in Yemen, the same Iranians which are constantly messing with (and by now: controlling) Iraq.

Even if Iran wouldn't try to launch a full-blown invasion of Israel right away, they would definitely supply and foster an intensification of the missile attacks on Israel. Simply put, their unchecked presence on Israel's doorstep would undoubtedly represent a dramatic deterioration of Israel's security and strategic position.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 29 2023 06:17pm
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Oct 29 2023 06:23pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 29 2023 11:32pm)
oh really, marcel? which of our "leftie wokies" has defended that "stuff"? can you name a single one who posted in favour of attacks on an israeli airplane in dagestan, or threats against jewish people in the US, germany, france, or elsewhere?
of course you can't because it's simply not true. you're just a disgusting smear merchant, that's all.

what we have ACTUALLY seen here are multiple far right bigots using fascist language to de-humanise a people and repeatedly advocating for the murdering of innocent civilians in gaza and lebanon for example. strange that you have no problem with such posts, supporting apartheid and ethnic cleansing of muslims (obviously because you're an islamophobe bigot yourself), yet clutch your pearls about alleged positions that you freely invented.


you are defending it and getting triggered like that is just proof

you claim to be against it, but at the same time you spread hamas propaganda and you attack everyone, who speaks the uncomfortable truth

hamas and their sympathisers are not a fringe terror group, they are the mainstream in the muslim world

almost everyone supports them in gaza, entire countries and governments support them, they want all jews dead and/or gone

from the river to the sea is not a compromise

every single country with a muslim population has protests (including ISIS flags like in hamburg or london)

the minority are the few modern muslims, while the overwhelming majority is as quiet as a mouse

but please continue to believe the occupation talk muslim and left wing antisemites, its all going to blow up in your face one day

have fun terror supporter
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Oct 29 2023 06:38pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 30 Oct 2023 01:02)
The illegal settlements mostly affect the Palestinians living in the West Bank, not those in Gaza.


Large part of gazans are refugees who got their properties stolen etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugees

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Oct 29 2023 06:47pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 30 Oct 2023 01:23)
you are defending it and getting triggered like that is just proof

you claim to be against it, but at the same time you spread hamas propaganda and you attack everyone, who speaks the uncomfortable truth

hamas and their sympathisers are not a fringe terror group, they are the mainstream in the muslim world

almost everyone supports them in gaza, entire countries and governments support them, they want all jews dead and/or gone

from the river to the sea is not a compromise

every single country with a muslim population has protests (including ISIS flags like in hamburg or london)

the minority are the few modern muslims, while the overwhelming majority is as quiet as a mouse

but please continue to believe the occupation talk muslim and left wing antisemites, its all going to blow up in your face one day

have fun terror supporter


so you decided to just keep lying, huh? very much expected.

meanwhile in reality, not a single "leftie" here defended ANY hostility against jewish people. that's just a projection of ACTUAL supporters of ethnic cleansings and apartheid policies by islamophobe bigots like yourself. just your typical goebbels move.

that's why you couldn't find a single post or argument to support your outrageous claim and base your entire theory on moronic speculations that are the opposite of what people actually post here, lol. desperate smear merchant is desperate.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 30 Oct 2023 01:15)
What the fuck are you babbling about? Israel is not just faced with rhetoric, they are faced with tangible action. On 7/8, Hamas terrorists slaughtered over a thousand Israeli civilians, an act which was cheered by very substantial portions of the people in Gaza, but also the wider Muslim world. Speaking of which, the three different occasions (1948, 67, 73) on which Israel's Arab neighbors teamed up to wage war against them, most likely with genocidal intent, are also far more than just "rhetoric".

Regarding an autonomous, sovereign Palestinian state: it's safe to assume that they would use their newfound sovereignty to use their territory as a deployment zone for troops from their Iranian allies - the Iranians which have publicly vowed to wipe Israel out for the past 40+ years, the Iranians which have already done this exact thing in Lebanon and Syria, the Iranians which have used the financial wiggle room that Obama's goodwill afforded them to fund a proxy war in Yemen, the same Iranians which are constantly messing with (and by now: controlling) Iraq.

Even if Iran wouldn't try to launch a full-blown invasion of Israel right away, they would definitely supply and foster an intensification of the missile attacks on Israel. Simply put, their unchecked presence on Israel's doorstep would undoubtedly represent a dramatic deterioration of Israel's security and strategic position.


funny how none of you occupation apologists address the fact that israel's founding happened through an ethnic cleansing, how israel is by no means that innocent victim you're trying to portray it as in order to justify the slaughtering of innocent arab children.

also, by your own "definition" of genocidal intent, israel is much closer to committing one than the palestinians ever were. debunking yourself like a champ, lol.

and let's not forget that with hamas it's just a small group of radicals that was intentionally propped up by the other side (an argument that you apartheid fans unsurprisingly avoid like the plague), with israel it's a whole state that repeatedly voted for governments pushing those settlement / apartheid / occupation policies, consistently murdering innocent people at a rate of over twenty to one, while stealing their land, their resources, their freedom, their dignity, their rights...

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Oct 29 2023 07:21pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 29 2023 05:47pm)
so you decided to just keep lying, huh? very much expected.

meanwhile in reality, not a single "leftie" here defended ANY hostility against jewish people. that's just a projection of ACTUAL supporters of ethnic cleansings and apartheid policies by islamophobe bigots like yourself. just your typical goebbels move.

that's why you couldn't find a single post or argument to support your outrageous claim and base your entire theory on moronic speculations that are the opposite of what people actually post here, lol. desperate smear merchant is desperate.



funny how none of you occupation apologists address the fact that israel's founding happened through an ethnic cleansing, how israel is by no means that innocent victim you're trying to portray it as in order to justify the slaughtering of innocent arab children.

also, by your own "definition" of genocidal intent, israel is much closer to committing one than the palestinians ever were. debunking yourself like a champ, lol.

and let's not forget that with hamas it's just a small group of radicals that was intentionally propped up by the other side (an argument that you apartheid fans unsurprisingly avoid like the plague), with israel it's a whole state that repeatedly voted for governments pushing those settlement / apartheid / occupation policies, consistently murdering innocent people at a rate of over twenty to one, while stealing their land, their resources, their freedom, their dignity, their rights...


Here you are very openly saying that Israel has no right to exist

Go move to some muslim shithole if you love them so much dude
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Oct 29 2023 07:57pm
Quote (El1te @ 30 Oct 2023 02:21)
Here you are very openly saying that Israel has no right to exist

Go move to some muslim shithole if you love them so much dude


oh look, another genocide-supporting racist who outright lies in order to deflect from their ACTUAL support for the ethnic cleansing of muslims.

meanwhile my ACTUAL, not imaginary stance:

Quote (fender @ 29 Oct 2023 17:35)
to be clear, i generally agree that both peoples lived there for long enough to support the notion that they should find a sustainable way to co-exist. i don't agree with those that suggest that because israel was created through ethnic cleansing, all the jewish people living there today have no right to stay there. i don't think the current generations should be collectively punished for the sins of previous generations - but that goes both ways.


while YOUR actual stance it:

Quote (El1te @ 18 Oct 2023 16:43)
I'd love to see Lebanon wiped off the map, y'all are primitive goat fuckers


your blatant dishonesty, repeatedly claiming i said the opposite of what i actually posted, while at the same time openly advocating for genocide, should make every halfway intelligent and reasonable person denounce you, but for some reason, all the other apartheid apologist are on your side and make the same moronic and false claims... funny how that works...

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Oct 29 2023 10:42pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 29 Oct 2023 23:06)
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1718689681502597616?t=mdasllQA_K-tz-LrJhW6gw&s=19

muslim mob in dagestan, russia

everywhere the same pictures and our leftie wokies are still defending this stuff


Quote (El1te @ 30 Oct 2023 00:18)
Sickening Al Jazeera article:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/29/pro-palestinian-crowd-enters-dagestan-airport-to-protest-israel-flight

The whole "most Muslims are peaceful!" lie that is peddled by western leftists is unraveling in real time. Wake up people


Ameribros should realise that their tax dollars are funding literal antisemitism. Riots were stoked and organized with the help of their funding. Time to ask some questions and call your senator?

https://x.com/markamesexiled/status/1718720314094280951


Quote (ofthevoid @ 30 Oct 2023 00:10)
Black Hebrew Israelites vs pro Palestinian protestors in Chicago:

https://x.com/tpostmillennial/status/1718730368625647653?s=46&t=Clvaf6rKkSLkdAtdE744Gg

Who had this on their bingo cards for 2023?

white leftists bros really in a pickle here on who to support


Great contrast to Dagestani riots which were clamped down by Dagestani SWAT and resolved in a few hours without anyone being hurt (a few broken doors don’t count).

This post was edited by Malopox on Oct 29 2023 10:44pm
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Oct 29 2023 11:14pm
Quote (Malopox @ Oct 29 2023 11:42pm)
Ameribros should realise that their tax dollars are funding literal antisemitism. Riots were stoked and organized with the help of their funding. Time to ask some questions and call your senator?

https://x.com/markamesexiled/status/1718720314094280951




Great contrast to Dagestani riots which were clamped down by Dagestani SWAT and resolved in a few hours without anyone being hurt (a few broken doors don’t count).


I mean, we spent most of the last 20 years propping up radical sunni radicals with a combination of propaganda, funding dissidents and arming militants. Especially in Russia's sphere of influence in a conscious attempt to enflame an insurgency against them. Of course its coming back to bite us, but thats hardly new.

The Israelis just got lucky in this case, would have been a mass pogrom lynching if they had been found, Dagestani police were totally incapable of holding back the mob and waited until it started to give up after failing to find them. I suspect that will be the last connecting flight from Israel to land in a muslim hotbed for the foreseeable future
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