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Biden’s crime bill got him locked up for life huh. Poor guy didn’t stand a chance


Read the article.
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Im looking up the full story before i believe this

CNN has like a 5% truth rate
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Read the article.

yeah saw something that looked like the 3 strikes rule in effect. really is a shame!

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yeah saw something that looked like the 3 strikes rule in effect. really is a shame!


Three strikes rule was inspired by the Redeemers for sure.
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Im looking up the full story before i believe this

CNN has like a 5% truth rate


Not a statistical argument
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Im looking up the full story before i believe this

CNN has like a 5% truth rate


https://www.foxnews.com/us/louisiana-supreme-court-life-sentence-stealing-hedge-clippers
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its basically what the three strikes rule and its variants was envisioned for
the guy spent barely any of his adult life outside of prison. He committed a serious violent crime and nearly murdered someone, he went to prison a long time. He gets out, he very quickly commits another serious felony. He gets out, he commits another felony. On the final occasion, he was burglarizing an occupied home, a home invasion. He only made off with hedge clippers but so what, burglary doesn't care about whether you find their jew gold stash or turn up empty handed, its the thieving intent and willingness to break into a home that counts.
if they had sentenced him to another few years in prison, he'd get released and go out and commit another felony and get arrested again within a few days, weeks or months.
the three strikes laws are designed to put away people who are clear public menaces and can't be rehabilitated, so that the story ends with them in prison instead of some family dead in a home invasion
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its basically what the three strikes rule and its variants was envisioned for
the guy spent barely any of his adult life outside of prison. He committed a serious violent crime and nearly murdered someone, he went to prison a long time. He gets out, he very quickly commits another serious felony. He gets out, he commits another felony. On the final occasion, he was burglarizing an occupied home, a home invasion. He only made off with hedge clippers but so what, burglary doesn't care about whether you find their jew gold stash or turn up empty handed, its the thieving intent and willingness to break into a home that counts.
if they had sentenced him to another few years in prison, he'd get released and go out and commit another felony and get arrested again within a few days, weeks or months.
the three strikes laws are designed to put away people who are clear public menaces and can't be rehabilitated, so that the story ends with them in prison instead of some family dead in a home invasion


The rule that did this is a predecessor to three strikes, again.
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Aug 6 2020 06:21pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 6 2020 07:43pm)
its basically what the three strikes rule and its variants was envisioned for
the guy spent barely any of his adult life outside of prison. He committed a serious violent crime and nearly murdered someone, he went to prison a long time. He gets out, he very quickly commits another serious felony. He gets out, he commits another felony. On the final occasion, he was burglarizing an occupied home, a home invasion. He only made off with hedge clippers but so what, burglary doesn't care about whether you find their jew gold stash or turn up empty handed, its the thieving intent and willingness to break into a home that counts.
if they had sentenced him to another few years in prison, he'd get released and go out and commit another felony and get arrested again within a few days, weeks or months.
the three strikes laws are designed to put away people who are clear public menaces and can't be rehabilitated, so that the story ends with them in prison instead of some family dead in a home invasion


In my perfect Utopia, I would throw journalists into a giant flaming wood chipper and just have you write articles.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 6 2020 07:21pm)
In my perfect Utopia, I would throw journalists into a giant flaming wood chipper and just have you write articles.


what really irks me is yesterday I googled up this story and I never found the explanation in the obviously editorialized and politically motivated reporting by all the MSM
instead I found the details in the PDF of the court's decision upholding his original sentence and striking down his original appeals (not the state supreme court one- it took a bit of digging to find the original)
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1648555/state-v-bryant/

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Excessiveness of Sentence
Defendant contends that his life sentence is excessive.

Whether the sentence imposed is too severe depends upon the circumstances of the case and the background of the defendant. A sentence violates La. Const. art. I, § 20, if it is grossly out of proportion to the seriousness of the offense or nothing more than a purposeless and needless infliction of pain and suffering. State v. Dorthey, 623 So. 2d 1276 (La.1993); State v. Wilkerson, 29,979 (La.App.2d Cir.10/29/97), 702 So. 2d 64. A sentence is considered grossly disproportionate if, when the crime and punishment are viewed in light of the harm done to society, it shocks the sense of justice. State v. Smith, 433 So. 2d 688 (La.1983).

In this case, La. R.S. 15:529.1 mandated a life sentence for defendant. As this court stated in State v. Ponsell, 33,543 (La.App.2d Cir.08/23/00), 766 So. 2d 678:

Although, in State v. Dorthey, supra, the Louisiana Supreme Court stated that courts have the power to declare a mandatory minimum sentence excessive under Article I, Section 20 of the Louisiana Constitution, this power should only be exercised in rare cases and only when the court is firmly convinced that the minimum sentence is excessive. State v. Johnson, 97-1906 (La.03/04/98), 709 So. 2d 672; State v. Bush, 31,710 (La. App.2d Cir.02/24/99), 733 So. 2d 49, writ denied, 99-1010 (La.09/03/99), 747 So. 2d 536.
Defendant's criminal record, as reflected in the pre-sentence investigation, is reminiscent of the record of the offender in State v. Ignot, 29,745 (La.App.2d Cir.08/24/97), 701 So. 2d 1001, writ denied, 99-0336 (La.06/18/99), 745 So. 2d 618. Defendant has spent very little of his adult life outside of the criminal justice system. After his April 20, 1986, release from prison for attempted armed robbery, defendant was arrested again on September 24, 1986, for the Radio Shack burglary. He was released from prison on July 23, 1988, and was arrested again for burglary in September 1989. Those charges, as well as theft and drug charges, were dismissed, but in July 1990 defendant was arrested again for forgery. He was thereafter arrested in November 1991 for simple burglary of an inhabited dwelling and in March 1992 was sentenced to serve four years at hard labor without benefit. In November 1993, defendant was arrested for simple burglary of an inhabited dwelling and on July 12, 1995, was sentenced to 11 months at hard labor.

This litany of convictions and the brevity of the periods during which defendant was not in custody for a new offense is ample support for the sentence imposed in this case.[2]


What are you supposed to do with someone who can never make it off parole without committing more dangerous/violent felonies?

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