Zelensky: Russian air attack on Holodomor Memorial Day is ‘deliberate terror’
“Over 70 kamikaze (drones were launched) the night dedicated to remembering the victims of the Holodomor genocide. Deliberate terror. At the exact time. Russia’s leadership is proud they can kill,” Zelensky wrote in a Telegram post.

==> Ruscists are trying to do it again.

Ukraine’s air defense downed 74 out of 75 drones Russia launched against Ukraine overnight on Nov. 25. Five people were injured in Kyiv as a result of the attack, including an 11-year-old child.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Nov 25 2023 10:13am

Neither one nor the other. Fun fact, he justifies this with some Russian plan "The Rogue Bear". The very thing that he and his team laughed at when his opponent Poroshenko spoke about it in all seriousness.

What's the rogue bear plan all about? Sounds intriguing

Rogue bear (Шатун, shatun) - comes from the word Шатать (to stagger), literally "staggering bear". Play on words, according to Zelensky the plan is to stagger Ukrainian steady power vertical with Maidan 3.0 and other opposition activities or a military coup (Zaluzhny) followed by massive drone attacks in winter. The only man can handle war-torn Ukraine is Zelensky.

Shatun is a bear that has not gained fat for the winter and has not hid in a den. Shatuns are characterized by increased aggressiveness. There may be several reasons for their appearance, but the main one is the failure of the feed crop, mainly berries and pine nuts.

Usually bears lie down in the first half of October and leave the den in April. Shatuns, as a rule, go to bed later than their brothers (they don’t sleep for a long time and wake up already in January; not many survive until spring).

This post was edited by Norlander on Nov 25 2023 10:53am

Let’s make a checkpoint here - 26th of November 2023 and get back here in 2024.

- Russia occupied what they set out to occupy (Crimea, Donbass).

- Ukraine is has lost almost all accumulated Soviet weaponry and is burning through NATO deliveries at an alarming pace. Funnily enough this is not how Russians defined demilitarization. Demilitarization will only be achieved once and if a neutrality agreement is signed.

- Russians never claimed they can defeat NATO outright I’m not sure this can be achieved unless a major splinter occurs (eg NATO throwing Turkey under the bus and Turkey leaves NATO or US suffers collapse which is also extremely unrealistic). Having said a ceasefire with a neutrality agreement will definitely be a setback for NATO eastward expansion plans.

- EU seems to be less cohesive than expected. The more this drags on the more nationalism will rise among individual countries with people demanding answers for their deteriorating standards of living.

- It seems all experts agree that sanctions were not able to “destroy” economy of Russia yet. Yes some industries have had a setback and long-term perspectives are unclear, but the effect will take decades to set in which Ukraine might not have. The collective West has implemented a set of extremely bizzare sanctions actually helping unite Russia around current leadership while continuing to pay for Russias exports directly or indirectly (through third party blending/processing countries).

I'll add a few bits:

The sanctions backfired and the Eu suffered massive inflation because of the energy crisis and increased commodity costs. Governments had to step in to subsidize households, pushing up already high national debt. Coal fired power stations that were shut down to reduce carbon emissions had to be restarted because the flow of cheap natural gas was cut.

Russia was driven into China's camp and even befriended North Korea to secure ammo deliveries from that country. The North Koreans recently successfully launched a military spy satellite into orbit thanks to Russian help which is a massive headache not only for the US and South Korea but also for Japan.

Ukraine is running out of manpower and is now sending increasingly older men to the frontlines, men that don't want to be there.

Russia is running it's armament factories 24/7 which is easy to do for them because it's all state owned. Compare to the West where that stuff is being made by private companies and they completely fail to keep up with demand. Ukraine burned through 7 years of javelin production in a single year, NATO 155 mm ammo stockpiles were emptied and the US even shipped in their stockpiles from South Korea and Israel which still wasn't enough, the US had no other choice to send cluster munitions because they were out of the regular rounds. A complete embarrassment.

The promising ARMATA T14 tank's engines facility ("Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant-Uraltrak")

Do we have to lower ourselves, posting footage of destroyed Ukrainian factories just like you do?

I guess not because it's a clear sign you have absolutely no counter arguments to what was said in the two posts above

Have a nice day sauceman

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