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Feb 21 2022 12:32pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Feb 21 2022 09:39am)
You have zero proofs of this story, ofc not.


You mean Ukraine, who could have made a move against the separatist regions at ANY point in the last 5 years, waited until the Russians mobilized their entire army to the Ukrainian border to lash out with minor attacks that would be the pretext for a Russian invasion?
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Feb 21 2022 12:37pm
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You mean Ukraine, who could have made a move against the separatist regions at ANY point in the last 5 years, waited until the Russians mobilized their entire army to the Ukrainian border to lash out with minor attacks that would be the pretext for a Russian invasion?


makes PERFECT sense - in the empty heads of putin bootlickers that is. it's SO transparent, so obvious, anyone unironically suggesting it is in serious need of medical / psychological attention.
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Feb 21 2022 12:39pm
Quote (Sioux @ 21 Feb 2022 18:32)
You mean Ukraine, who could have made a move against the separatist regions at ANY point in the last 5 years, waited until the Russians mobilized their entire army to the Ukrainian border to lash out with minor attacks that would be the pretext for a Russian invasion?


Ukraine's actual governement in charge doing this ? They are playing it really hot then lol.
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Feb 21 2022 12:40pm
Quote (fender @ Feb 21 2022 07:27pm)
so russia now officially "recognises" the territories they invaded and occupied 2014, in a desperate attempt to deflect from the fact that they are the aggressor.

how stupid would you have to be, as a citizen of a country with a free press, to actually fall for that?

anyone still suggesting this is not a transparent excuse for military intervention (coincidentally in an area where more than 100k of your troops, allegedly all on "exercises" strategically surround a sovereign nation) is either braindead (aka trump supporter) or a paid troll. it really doesn't get more obvious than this.


Still ignorant to the fact that Russia has been pressing the issue of NATO expansion for decades? And the fact that NATO didn't give a fuck and still don't?

Of course you get to the point of escalation just like back in 1969. The problem is that NATO and people like you think they're better than any country that has another political system than your preferred progressive regressive wokeism but the Russians don't care. They don't want your purple hair revolution you chud

Just get ready for the escalation that you are hoping for, looks like you got it coming.
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Feb 21 2022 12:45pm


Putin talking live
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Feb 21 2022 12:48pm
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Still ignorant to the fact that Russia has been pressing the issue of NATO expansion for decades? And the fact that NATO didn't give a fuck and still don't?

Of course you get to the point of escalation just like back in 1969. The problem is that NATO and people like you think they're better than any country that has another political system than your preferred progressive regressive wokeism but the Russians don't care. They don't want your purple hair revolution you chud

Just get ready for the escalation that you are hoping for, looks like you got it coming.


NATO was literally set up to counter a marxist regime.
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Feb 21 2022 12:50pm
Russia's main aim is to appear as a superpower to garner support domestically to divert away from the political repression and a total dogshit economy with a GDP smaller than South Korea's, and 14x smaller than the USA

Russia can't open up to outsiders, it would threaten the Russian nationalism they propagate. They can't liberalise their markets, it would threaten the authority of Putin

A declining power, limited to trolling the West and bullying their neighbours
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Feb 21 2022 12:53pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 21 Feb 2022 18:45)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNhh-OLzWlE

Putin talking live


His sighs are excessive, it's just wrong.

Oh glorious Lenine... :lol:
This remind me Erdogan who want to re-establish Ottoman empire...
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Quote (Sioux @ Feb 21 2022 11:32am)
You mean Ukraine, who could have made a move against the separatist regions at ANY point in the last 5 years, waited until the Russians mobilized their entire army to the Ukrainian border to lash out with minor attacks that would be the pretext for a Russian invasion?


I'll tell you why they didn't attack sooner.

First of all, it took time to re-arm and re-equip their military after being devastated in 2014-2015 due to their own massive failures.

Secondly, they did not have political support from Trump's administration to go on the offensive against Donbass during the Trump years.

It is no coincidence that Biden becomes president and then all of a sudden, there is a crisis in Ukraine. Ukraine feels emboldened to attack because they are being urged to do so by Biden's administration.

Just one of many consequences for voting for a Neocon puppet president that is just doing the bidding of the military industrial complex.
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Feb 21 2022 12:55pm
Quote (Djunior @ 21 Feb 2022 19:40)
Still ignorant to the fact that Russia has been pressing the issue of NATO expansion for decades? And the fact that NATO didn't give a fuck and still don't?

Of course you get to the point of escalation just like back in 1969. The problem is that NATO and people like you think they're better than any country that has another political system than your preferred progressive regressive wokeism but the Russians don't care. They don't want your purple hair revolution you chud

Just get ready for the escalation that you are hoping for, looks like you got it coming.


apart from your perfectly sane, totally not unhinged idea of what NATO actually is (props for somehow managing to connect that cold war relic with unconventionally coloured hair - i certainly know who will take gold in the next mental gymnastic championships), you might be missing a tiny, but not entirely unimportant detail here: ukraine is NOT russia.
i know that's probably an incredibly complicated distinction to make for someone like you, but there you go... so what russia (a de facto dictatorship: heavily censored press, murdered / imprisoned political opposition, extreme corruption...) wants to do domestically is up to them, but putin is NOT the president of ukraine.

i don't like the US' religious conservatism, curtailing of women's and lgbtq rights, lack of democracy... but that doesn't mean that any country therefore has the right to invade the US to force its values on them. how old are you? six?
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