Because he’s right and you’re wrong. You’ve always been wrong, one day I hope you’re able to see yourself before you go any further down the rabbit hole.

Both sides of the aisle are outraged by what happened, but only one side is strategically blowing it out of proportion for political gain and calling for a completely unsuitable way of addressing the problem. The same argument also applies to Romney and Cheney, who are calling for Trump's head because their vision for the GOP is incompatible with Trump's and this process is their golden opportunity to purge the party from his influence.

As usual, the blinders are on.

Political violence was normalized over the past year. The Democratic party leadership (Pelosi, Harris, and others) repeatedly endorsed and egged on protesters engaging in historic levels of violence, with dozens dead, almost a thousand officers injured, and billions in damages. A police precinct was stormed and burned to the ground. Anarchist warlords established an 'autonomous zone' in Seattle and promptly shot people dead defending their new territory. I believe the moderate, despised by left, mayor of Seattle called it a "summer of love".

When you refuse to hold leaders accountable, you can hardly act surprised when no one takes this one incident as seriously.

your blinders certainly are on. As usual you're strategically dancing around inconvenient facts. You are a master of compartmentalizing inconvenient facts, and this is just another show of that mastery.

Outrage expressed in statements in the aftermath followed by opposition to any accountability isn't genuine outrage. Convicting and disqualifying Trump is a completely reasonable and proportional response to his post-election actions, particularly Jan. 6th.



What blinders? You're not dealing with the actual issue... you're just engaging in whataboutism.

The only response from you when faced with the radicalization and extremism of the right is to blame the media or Democrats. This sort of inability to be introspective about your own side is part of the reason right-wing radicalization is rampant.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 28 2021 11:05am

No one is denying what the facts are. Nancy Pelosi compared federal officers making legal arrests to Nazis. Maxine Waters encouraged dangerous crowds to surround and "push back on" lawful members of the previous administration. Leftist mobs were surrounding Tucker Carlson's house threatening his wife and children. Kamala Harris was paying to get rioters out of bail and back on the street. A police precinct was violently stormed and burned to the ground. The economic damage was catastrophic. Antifa was caught throwing bombs at federal buildings.

Trump led his supporters into fantasy land, which culminated in a riot which killed an officer. Awful stuff, and in a normal world it would be easy to hold him accountable. But we don't live in a normal world. We have been told explicitly that riots are a form of political expression. Now we don't like the results.



"Whataboutism" has become, or maybe always was, a transparent attempt to deflect from clear and obvious hypocrisy. You are not being taken seriously because you accept or ignore political violence when it's convenient, and oppose it when it's not.

As I've said before, I am fine impeaching Trump. But we cannot impeach Trump when his behavior is widely accepted by those on the other side. When we punish Trump, and allow others off the hook, we are implicitly endorsing their behavior. People are going so far as to call for Cruz and Hawley's head. Again, if that's the case, I am not opposed, but we need to make sure that we are applying our new rules with equity.

This post was edited by bogie160 on Jan 28 2021 11:22am

false equivalence. google it.

Impeachment is for presidents. Trump is not the president. The appropriate kind of accountability for his actions would be found in court. Why are Democrats not pushing for an indictment of Trump in a proper court? Is it because such a trial, while the correct place to hold private citizen Trump accountable, would not help them politically? Is it because they know that Trump didnt come even close to breaking any laws, and that such a court case would therefore not be going anywhere?

Like I explained before: politically speaking, the ones who will hold Trump and his enablers in the GOP accountable are not Democrats, it's Republican voters. Trump didnt break any laws, and if Republican voters dont turn on him because of his behavior (a non-trivial 'if'!!), then there will be no political price to pay. Deal with it.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 28 2021 01:34pm

and the 'dumbest of all possible takes'-award goes to:

Not an argument.