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Jan 13 2021 08:15am
Quote (thesnipa @ 13 Jan 2021 15:08)
politicians who are blacklisted are generally blacklisted because of massive public outrage from the left, a group that wont vote for them anyways. and by getting blacklisted they get street cred from the right who will vote for them.

the right needs to pool resources to make their own echo chamber platform and hit Twitter and the others where it hurts, or nothing will change. look at the stock price tumble banning Trump caused, imagine an actual exodus.

too much bitching, not enough programming. years of tears and we get Parler? that's the best there is? i thought silicon valley being all lefties was just a fear driven social pressure thing, surely they must be able to get a dozen programmers together willing to make a platform that isnt total shit, right? the issues with big tech and censorship are inherently leftist ideology driven issues, correct? that's what we've been told.

well in academia if u have a theory u test it, in this case that means making a right wing driven test case of a social media platform and seeing what outputs prove to have been leftist ideology driven and which are inherent to a social media company regardless of politics.

or we could be idiots who just cry about twitter and demand govt action that we all know wont do jack shit. yup, lets do that.


We will see if parler can successfully come back. I agree that conservatives need to create their own social media environment, just like they did with traditional media. It's just that this is difficult to achieve when Google, Amazon et al. actively try to dehost your alternative platforms.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 13 Jan 2021 15:08)
I don't use Twitter and only touch my Facebook once a year.

Social media is absolutely not indispensable to modern life in even the loosest sense.

If you didn't want corporations fucking people over you shouldn't vote for Republicans, because this is the logical conclusion of their free market pro corporate message. When there's a few big players they can easily collude to shut out the inconvenient, and that's been a goal of the Republican party for at least 30 years and hasn't changed one iota under Trump.

Chickens have come home to roost, both from his words and from his parties actions.


I phrased that awkwardly, but yes, for a politician who has to communicate with a large audience, social media access is indispensable.

When it comes to trust busting/allowing unlimited corporate power, I disagree - and have always disagreed - with Republicans.
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Jan 13 2021 08:17am
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We will see if parler can successfully come back. I agree that conservatives need to create their own social media environment, just like they did with traditional media. It's just that this is difficult to achieve when Google, Amazon et al. actively try to dehost your alternative platforms.



I phrased that awkwardly, but yes, for a politician who has to communicate with a large audience, social media access is indispensable.

When it comes to trust busting/allowing unlimited corporate power, I disagree - and have always disagreed - with Republicans.


it really isn't, just move overseas for hosting. as i told Thor yesterday, it will even help the narratives that american tech giants are anti free speech (we had to go to the Balkans to get hosting). "oh no its not on the google play store or apple store" is a pretty boomer complaint too. good, unlisted makes it cool.

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Jan 13 2021 08:19am
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I phrased that awkwardly, but yes, for a politician who has to communicate with a large audience, social media access is indispensable.

When it comes to trust busting/allowing unlimited corporate power, I disagree - and have always disagreed - with Republicans.


That's ridiculous. Most politicians only barely rely on social media. Trump and Biden together spent billions of dollars on ads last race. They have mailing lists, and literally every politician that isn't Donald Trump gets along just fine on every social media platform.

This is not a problem with Twitter and Facebook censoring. This is a problem with Trump inciting violence and constantly telling bold face lies to do so.
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Jan 13 2021 08:22am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 13 2021 06:15am)
We will see if parler can successfully come back. I agree that conservatives need to create their own social media environment, just like they did with traditional media. It's just that this is difficult to achieve when Google, Amazon et al. actively try to dehost your alternative platforms.



I phrased that awkwardly, but yes, for a politician who has to communicate with a large audience, social media access is indispensable.

When it comes to trust busting/allowing unlimited corporate power, I disagree - and have always disagreed - with Republicans.


I could agree with all this if places like Parler etc. didn't let their sites be full on mob attack planning boards.
let them live on 8chan
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Jan 13 2021 08:32am
Quote (theCrossbones @ 13 Jan 2021 15:22)
I could agree with all this if places like Parler etc. didn't let their sites be full on mob attack planning boards.
let them live on 8chan


Yes, Parler needs to step up on enforcement against blatant calls for violence (the "behead the traitors"-posts and such).
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Jan 13 2021 08:42am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 13 2021 09:08am)
politicians who are blacklisted are generally blacklisted because of massive public outrage from the left, a group that wont vote for them anyways. and by getting blacklisted they get street cred from the right who will vote for them.

the right needs to pool resources to make their own echo chamber platform and hit Twitter and the others where it hurts, or nothing will change. look at the stock price tumble banning Trump caused, imagine an actual exodus.

too much bitching, not enough programming. years of tears and we get Parler? that's the best there is? i thought silicon valley being all lefties was just a fear driven social pressure thing, surely they must be able to get a dozen programmers together willing to make a platform that isnt total shit, right? the issues with big tech and censorship are inherently leftist ideology driven issues, correct? that's what we've been told.

well in academia if u have a theory u test it, in this case that means making a right wing driven test case of a social media platform and seeing what outputs prove to have been leftist ideology driven and which are inherent to a social media company regardless of politics.

or we could be idiots who just cry about twitter and demand govt action that we all know wont do jack shit. yup, lets do that.


The challenge is the same challenge facing Parler.

How do you get everyone to switch en masse? There's nothing wrong with Parler except that the extreme voices go first, which makes the site unpalatable to more mainstream voices and susceptible to deplatforming.
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The challenge is the same challenge facing Parler.

How do you get everyone to switch en masse? There's nothing wrong with Parler except that the extreme voices go first, which makes the site unpalatable to more mainstream voices and susceptible to deplatforming.


im always so confused, one day its "muh 1st mendment, the people wont take this, we gon sick our gubment on u boy" the next its "yeah but like can we get people to register an email on a new site"?

what the fuck is it even.

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Jan 13 2021 08:51am
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im always so confused, one day its "muh 1st mendment, the people wont take this, we gon sick our gubment on u boy" the next its "yeah but like can we get people to register an email on a new site"?

what the fuck is it even.


People are lazy, and inertia is strong. I don't use Twitter, so I really can't say what it will take for them to switch.

Personally I like the idea of one "main" social media site, if only to generate better discussion, so I would rather Twitter just allow all legal speech.
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Jan 13 2021 09:06am
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People are lazy, and inertia is strong. I don't use Twitter, so I really can't say what it will take for them to switch.

Personally I like the idea of one "main" social media site, if only to generate better discussion, so I would rather Twitter just allow all legal speech.


sometimes the quickest way somewhere is the longest path.

create exodus of twitter to force twitter to change course, regulate twitter and you'll just get ineffectual laws they'll work their way around.
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Jan 13 2021 11:01am
Why is it always unemployed people or people who ain't white that are happy to post against Trump not knowing Biden is far worst when it come down to being racist. I'm actually happy Biden won so you guys realize how stupid y'all are and how fast you guys need to wake the fk up.

How to wake the fuck up:

Step 1) Stop watching Anime (It's for kids and pedophile)
Step 2) Stop living inside, there's a world outside
Step 3) Talk to other human being in real life, they won't eat you
Step 4) Eat well and exercise so you ain't 100KG+ over your ideal weight.
Step 5) Get a job and a degree (So you can stop leeching the system you vouch for so much)!
step 6) Get smart. Once you get smart, laugh at the Covid Hoax, 9/11 Hoax, Syria pipeline route aKa Syria war hoax and all the dozen other hoax the MSM made y'all believe.

Once all that done,

Step 1) Get even smarter by reading books now that you ain't braindead no more
Step 2) Stop talking to people who used to be what you were (Losers who live online)
Step 3) Get a wife material and get kids
Step 4) Work and put food on the table
Step 5) Live happy

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Right now , most people here live in Tristram or Minecraft.
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