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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 10 2020 03:48pm)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/depictions-racism-magic-2020-06-10

In our continuing series of "SJW's taking over MTG", we have the predictable black-lives-matter pandering after George Floyd
What wasn't predictable, is how insanely far they're willing to go in denying reality

Today Wizards is banning all cards that "depict racism" from organized play and retroactively excising them from its databases, effectively making them no longer official magic cards in a way that has never been done before. They will no longer acknowledge them as actual magic cards despite being printed and paid for in official sets and owned by collectors, and instead will have conspicuous missing multiverse IDs. It includes not just the obvious Klan-influenced "Invoke Prejudice" with its incredibly coincidental 1488 ID (they are listed alphabetically, so its pure coincidence)- but they also are removing cards that simply aren't considered politically correct anymore because they reference Islam, even extremely obliquely.

Sorry, but this is no longer a magic card:

https://6d4be195623157e28848-7697ece4918e0a73861de0eb37d08968.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/36930_200w.jpg


Apparently, based on those card choices, wizards is unironically creating a precedent that SJW identity politics now apply to the magic colors White and Black. Its no longer acceptable to print "destroy all black creatures" or that white creatures get a special bonus. Dats racist. Black creatures will now get affirmative action in-game or something


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Tyr is god of justice in the forgotten realms. I wonder what rank the god of social justice is?


Does the god of social justice have both hands?
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Does the god of social justice have both hands?


Actually tyr is blind and one handed. I think hes already the god of social justice
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The D&D universe is a universe of many fictional worlds and planes of existence, D&D has oppressors of all colors and races. I mean cleanse... crusade.. Will fiction have to be redacted and not written now if something similar happened in reality at some point in time?

I get it, its a for profit company and they don't want to lose a customer base due to getting blasted for being racist bigots but I have enjoyed MTG since early early 2000s and played with all races and this never came up once. Is there some huge demand from the player base for this or is it solely based on social media fear now? I have to think companies are trying avoid being lambasted now by the voice of the internet even if those voices are not the player base.


If you haven't paid close attention, this is actually pretty unsurprising, MTG has been among the most cucked franchises. They've been completely taken over by identity politics for several years now, at first just pandering with banning sexy art and putting in LGBT characters and conspicuous empowered black women and whatnot. But then it started spilling over into hostility and stuff like banning players and artists for the perception of holding controversial viewpoints, policing their social media, even a conspicuous silence and complete failure to do anything when a gay antifa SJW player tried to ambush and beat a Trump supporting MTG personality they had banned for wrongthink. Wizards are very, very deep down he rabbit hole and have been.

And the thing is, its impossible to appease SJWs. They will turn on their own and eat their 'allies' 10 times out of 10, and the more you feed them the stronger they become. Alec Holowka was a fatal example of that. Wizards has been getting buttslammed on social media by the black lives matter crowd for the past few weeks, who are accusing them of not having enough forced diversity in design & development teams and making very vague and nonsensical accusations of racism. Like saying this card is racist because it was in an Indian-themed set and has P/T 7/11:



They're going absolutely nuts, read up on it here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RDhVZ4x_Zf1abOpGfEGMI4xtYMA7AghCN5uWIfJRa6c/preview?pru=AAABcriTDi4*REvzeFzXQfBgnJGy74Xqkg
https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/h0dg11/black_designers_matter/


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I will agree that Invoke Prejudice is on edge, but again its a made up world, and in fantasy there's oppressors of every color that look like something that was an oppressor in history if you really want to go down that path. Regardless i understand the distaste for that one and it dosen't bother me if they redact it if there's demand from a player base and people are actually truly offended.


As far as the playerbase goes...
https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/h0k5ru/depictions_of_racism_in_magic/

Reactions are overwhelmingly negative and dumbfounded at how stupid they're being. And that's notable because /r/magicTCG is basically a feminazi Tumblr headquarters and will ban anything even vaguely non-PC on sight

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 10 2020 05:18pm
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 10 2020 05:14pm)
If you haven't paid close attention, this is actually pretty unsurprising, MTG has been among the most cucked franchises. They've been completely taken over by identity politics for several years now, at first just pandering with banning sexy art and putting in LGBT characters and conspicuous empowered black women and whatnot. But then it started spilling over into hostility and stuff like banning players and artists for the perception of holding controversial viewpoints, policing their social media, even a conspicuous silence and complete failure to do anything when a gay antifa SJW player tried to ambush and beat a Trump supporting MTG personality they had banned for wrongthink. Wizards are very, very deep down he rabbit hole and have been.

And the thing is, its impossible to appease SJWs. They will turn on their own and eat their 'allies' 10 times out of 10, and the more you feed them the stronger they become. Alec Holowka was a fatal example of that. Wizards has been getting buttslammed on social media by the black lives matter crowd for the past few weeks, who are accusing them of not having enough forced diversity in design & development teams and making very vague and nonsensical accusations of racism. Like saying this card is racist because it was in an Indian-themed set and has P/T 7/11:

https://www.cardkingdom.com/images/magic-the-gathering/aether-revolt/consulate-dreadnaught-58690-medium.jpg

They're going absolutely nuts, read up on it here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RDhVZ4x_Zf1abOpGfEGMI4xtYMA7AghCN5uWIfJRa6c/preview?pru=AAABcriTDi4*REvzeFzXQfBgnJGy74Xqkg
https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/h0dg11/black_designers_matter/




As far as the playerbase goes...
https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/h0k5ru/depictions_of_racism_in_magic/

Reactions are overwhelmingly negative and dumbfounded at how stupid they're being. And that's notable because /r/magicTCG is basically a feminazi Tumblr headquarters and will ban anything even vaguely non-PC on sight


The more I think about it though, the more I think it's the wrong path.

Take cleanse as an example. Black in D&d does not represent black people, it's reanimation, demons, rot, etc. I think it's actually detriment to think people can't distinguish between black people and what that card says. The color white in magic is not white people, but it's cleansing the rot, demons and filth of the plane or world. In no where in the magic universe does it say that's black people. It does not even insinuate it.

To me it's absurd that there's an assumption that people can't seperater the meaning of something from current day or past events.

On my phone now so excuse the shit response.

This post was edited by SBD on Jun 10 2020 05:57pm
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The more I think about it though, the more I think it's the wrong path.

Take cleanse as an example. Black in D&d does not represent black people, it's reanimation, demons, rot, etc. I think it's actually detriment to think people can't distinguish between black people and what that card says. The color white in magic is not white people, but it's cleansing the rot, demons and filth of the plane or world. In no where in the magic universe does it say that's black people. It does not even insinuate it.

To me it's absurd that there's an assumption that people can't seperater the meaning of something from current day events.

On my phone now so excuse the shit response.


Wizards is adding race consciousness to the color pie, and only from the lens of social justice. It's okay for a black card like Virtue's Ruin to say "destroy all white creatures", its not okay for a white card like Cleans to say "destroy all black creatures". White has to answer for decades of being the oppressor color. Don't expect to see black associated with unclean or evil traits anymore, calling them filthy or demons is racist.

Also jews aren't subject to that same protection, anti-semitic tropes are perfectly fine

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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 10 2020 06:03pm)
Wizards is adding race consciousness to the color pie, and only from the lens of social justice. It's okay for a black card like Virtue's Ruin to say "destroy all white creatures", its not okay for a white card like Cleans to say "destroy all black creatures". White has to answer for decades of being the oppressor color. Don't expect to see black associated with unclean or evil traits anymore, calling them filthy or demons is racist.

Also jews aren't subject to that same protection, anti-semitic tropes are perfectly fine

https://i.imgur.com/bhuEQAf.jpg


Iso all knights that have protection from black as well as 4 copies of akroma. Going to be my table top deck going forward. Mono white only.

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Quote (Goomshill @ 11 Jun 2020 00:48)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/depictions-racism-magic-2020-06-10

In our continuing series of "SJW's taking over MTG", we have the predictable black-lives-matter pandering after George Floyd
What wasn't predictable, is how insanely far they're willing to go in denying reality

Today Wizards is banning all cards that "depict racism" from organized play and retroactively excising them from its databases, effectively making them no longer official magic cards in a way that has never been done before. They will no longer acknowledge them as actual magic cards despite being printed and paid for in official sets and owned by collectors, and instead will have conspicuous missing multiverse IDs. It includes not just the obvious Klan-influenced "Invoke Prejudice" with its incredibly coincidental 1488 ID (they are listed alphabetically, so its pure coincidence)- but they also are removing cards that simply aren't considered politically correct anymore because they reference Islam, even extremely obliquely.

Sorry, but this is no longer a magic card:

https://6d4be195623157e28848-7697ece4918e0a73861de0eb37d08968.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/36930_200w.jpg


Apparently, based on those card choices, wizards is unironically creating a precedent that SJW identity politics now apply to the magic colors White and Black. Its no longer acceptable to print "destroy all black creatures" or that white creatures get a special bonus. Dats racist. Black creatures will now get affirmative action in-game or something


First I thought there was a simple solution for this problem:




But then I contemplated this a bit more... all those white creatues which have "protection from black" would not be affected by darkest hour, so they would refuse to race mix and retain their pure whiteness. And why do those racist white creatures insist on their "protection from black" in the first place?
So I guess we now must remove all instances of protection from black from the game due to racism. :rofl:

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 10 2020 06:19pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 10 2020 07:17pm)
First I thought there was a simple solution for this problem:

https://i.imgur.com/jwn8b6P.jpg


But then I contemplated this a bit more... all those white creatues which have "protection from black" would not be affected by darkest hour, so they would refuse to race mix and retain their pure whiteness. And why do those racist white creatures insist on their "protection from black" in the first place?
So I guess we now must remove all instances of protection from black from the game due to racism. :rofl:


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This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 10 2020 06:29pm
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/1271134865988206592?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

What in the world. The road we are headed where history is some how conflated to mean that we still think in the same manner is wild. Even things like not using context such as the playing cards and just assuming racism is crazy.
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