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Dec 17 2018 09:29pm
Quote (fender @ Dec 18 2018 04:04am)
very relevant in a censorship thread:

https://i.imgur.com/8Tm3b1j.jpg


Sadly your shitpost does not pertain to censorship whatsoever. Under current leftist rules, sPeEcH hAs CoNsEqUeNceS, therefore defamation lawsuits against those who purposefully lie, are everywhere around us.

Dont get mad and triggered & start crying when people start using same rules your radical-extremist far-left team created, against you.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Dec 2018 04:15)
What the fuck is he smoking? He's totally got a point first, and then he suddenly loses his mind with that "tested in court, cant be legal" bullshit.

Doesnt he realize that significant proportions of his coalition are staunch defenders of free speech who share Trump's negative feelings on the liberal media, but would still fight hard for the liberal media's right to voice their opinion?


judging by the replies to my post, just a third of his loyal supporter base - most cultists apparently are completely fine with his (repeated) suggestions of censoring critical media and will happily make the most moronic excuses and whataboutisms to justify it.

also, coming from an administration that is setting new records in terms of falsehoods, misrepresentations, and outright lies it is a highly hypocritical 'point' to begin with - not even the worst ultra-left rag is even remotely close to trump's level of dishonesty and intentional deception...

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Dec 18 2018 07:19am
Quote (fender @ 18 Dec 2018 14:13)
judging by the replies to my post, just a third of his loyal supporter base - most cultists apparently are completely fine with his (repeated) suggestions of censoring critical media and will happily make the most moronic excuses and whataboutisms to justify it.


well, trump's coalition is already stretched thin electorally anyway, he absolutely cannot afford any further defections beyond this point. if he really loses one third of his remaining coalition (which he wont just because of one stupid tweet, but the direction is worrying), then he's looking towards something like a 100 vs 438 electoral college blowout in 2020...

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 18 2018 09:19am)
well, trump's coalition is already stretched thin electorally anyway, he absolutely cannot afford any further defections beyond this point. if he really loses one third of his remaining coalition (which he wont just because of one stupid tweet, but the direction is worrying), then he's looking towards something like a 100 vs 438 electoral college blowout in 2020...


Where have I heard this before..?
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 18 Dec 2018 14:21)
Where have I heard this before..?


note that I said: "IF he loses one third of his coalition"...

do you really think trump could win again if he lost one third of the 46% he got last time, i.e. with 31% of the popular vote?
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Dec 18 2018 07:27am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 18 2018 09:23am)
note that I said: "IF he loses one third of his coalition"...

do you really think trump could win again if he lost one third of the 46% he got last time, i.e. with 31% of the popular vote?


Agreed. Hes also not stepping on any landmines yet. Fenderps opinions are a manifestation of his personality disorder.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 18 Dec 2018 14:27)
Agreed. Hes also not stepping on any landmines yet. Fenderps opinions are a manifestation of his personality disorder.


True, but then again... bullshit like "the media criticizing me and having a partisan bias cant be legal, must be sued" runs the risk of alienating rational, college-educated conservatives. (As opposed to the " 'murica fuck yeah"-type of voters.)
And he needs those rational, college-educated conservatives to prevent even further losses in the suburbs or to have any chance in 2020.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Dec 2018 14:19)
well, trump's coalition is already stretched thin electorally anyway, he absolutely cannot afford any further defections beyond this point. if he really loses one third of his remaining coalition (which he wont just because of one stupid tweet, but the direction is worrying), then he's looking towards something like a 100 vs 438 electoral college blowout in 2020...


yeah, a third is definitely giving too much credit to the cult (i was just going by the direct replies to my post) - i think we're heavily overestimating the "significant portion" here. i think trump's own words about shooting someone on fifth avenue and NOT losing any voters come much closer to the truth. they don't really care about principles, free speech, right and wrong, or truth for that matter - all they care about is 'their' team 'winning'.


btw, this is NOT 'just one stupid tweet'. the acosta incident, using lies and absolutely moronic claims to get rid of an inconvenient journalist comes to mind - trump also made prior tweets suggesting media licences should be 'looked at' for reporting critical about him: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-media/trump-hits-cnn-and-nbc-urges-look-at-their-license-tweet-idUSKCN1LK1Z1

that alongside his coordinated and frequent attacks and attempts to discredit outlets that aren't extremely biased towards him, his 'enemy of the people' and 'fake news' (how ironic coming from the most prolific liar ever to disgrace the office) narratives SHOULD really worry you if you actually value free speech - but i think it's well established that the majority of his devout followers don't...

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 18 2018 09:43am)
True, but then again... bullshit like "the media criticizing me and having a partisan bias cant be legal, must be sued" runs the risk of alienating rational, college-educated conservatives. (As opposed to the " 'murica fuck yeah"-type of voters.)
And he needs those rational, college-educated conservatives to prevent even further losses in the suburbs or to have any chance in 2020.


I disagree. There is no alternative to trump for them given the Democrat’s extremism post 2008. If they are smart as ypu say, they understand the election is a binary choice with opportunity cpsts.
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