You're moving the goal posts, here. You said:



...to which I pointed out there are instances where these things just aren't true. And within those instances, the people involved are living in healthier, happier relationships. Hell, the Old Testament is filled with people practicing polygamy. It's even debatable if the New Testament forbids polygamy. I suppose you could argue that so long as the people involved get married, that it's not a sin if a man has two wives. But that really doesn't answer why it's wrong for people to be in open relationships. Then it contradicts your point about "not dividing your love" that you just made.



Did you not see that I said:



The bottom line is I am not the one harmed by the adultery. The people in the relationship are the ones harmed by the adultery, lies, and cheating. That's why it's "who gives a shit?" It's their relationship. They are the ones who are affected by it. It is not about me, or you, or anyone else besides those people and their children. It takes a special kind of terrible person to think:



You making your friend's affair about you is selfish. If you're actually their friend, you can of course be upset with them over destroying their relationship. But you can't sit there from every moment forward like you're still some kind of friend if you think "Gee, you did that awful thing to your wife ten years ago, it still really bothers me, and you're going to spend eternity in a lake of fire being tortured for that mistake that ruined your entire life because you're children won't talk to you."

If you want to shame people for making terrible mistakes that don't directly affect you and don't pose any further danger to anyone else (i.e. an affair), that makes you kind of a shit head.

Have you seen their relationships in full? You do not see the behind closed doors when nobody else is around. I guarantee that the relationship is tearing itself apart from within. Sexual Immorality destroys families. We've seen the judgement happen to those people who did practice polygamy. The Bible does say any sexual interaction outside marriage is adultery and immoral. Marriage is when we make our vows to eachother and towards God. Marriage is for two fleshes to become one. It is a sin if a man has two wives. I showed you earlier in the Australian Act that marriage is between one man and one woman getting together, excluding all others.



If I see some old person getting robbed right before my eyes why should I help them if I'm not personally harmed by the robbery? It is called human nature. If we see somebody that we do not despise we will help them in any way we can, especially if it is our friend. Their relationship breakdown does not only affect the people directly involved. The way your friend would act and relate to you would be different as well. You may not be directly affected by their relationship but you will care and you will give a shit, seeing a good friend of yours and their family being torn apart.



You will be very surprised how many 'terrible people' will think that. It is human nature to judge another person when their sin becomes public and shameful. Especially the Atheists, they are the ones who will judge and judge. They cannot self review their own sin and see how much of a terrible person they are. You do see it not only in movies but also in real life where the friends always make it about themselves. The shit heads are definitely out there but they will not view themselves as a shit head because they have no idea about their own sin. You can look at the story of the woman caught in adultery and how she was about to get stoned before Jesus stopped them. You uncontrollably will have a bad reputation. Others will put you to shame for doing that dirty deed with the intention of harm. Do not act like those people do not exist.

No. It's because your whole foundation is fucked. Your ability to reason and reach conclusions that don't conform to your confirmation bias is non existent. it doesn't matter what I say you will bend over backwards and deny all sense of reason to fit it into your worldview or simply discard it.

I can't have a productive conversation with someone who is that messed up in the head.

...the concerns about adultery in the Bible are not about what most folks think they are ; instead of thinking only of sexual adultery understand that the adulteration of the Gospel is the real concern .

Bit of a stretch isn't it?

yes they are two very different.

The only foundation I have is Jesus, he is my cornerstone. The thing is with you, for some strange reason you don't see anything wrong with homosexuality even though it destroys lives. You would very quickly discard any bible verse given to you as a reason to why sex outside marriage is immoral and what defines marriage.

Your ability to differ from right and wrong is basically non existent.

Remember that we are having a logical argument, not a conversation. Big difference.



I already told you what is what with putting text inside quotes.

people who preach anti-religion are just as irritating as people who preach religion. other than that i have no strong feelings for or against the thing you just said. please keep talking about whatever it is you were talking about

It's reassuring to know that people find the fight for equality and betterment of the human species irritating.

so you seek to ban religion everywhere on the basis that it would better the human species? i am not religious, mind you, but nearly everything humans have accomplished is because of a faith of some kind. of course if you need an argument point you could always point to north korea "see! atheism did that!"