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Nov 21 2025 03:48pm
That is fairness... All laws including alleged "war crime" laws are attempts to enforce fairness. This forced fairness only works when all parties agree to abide by those laws though, which is necessarily not the case in a war. So it is magical thinking.

Again, reality is clear. Reality says that leaving was thousands of times safer than staying. Staying was and still is degenerate.


"FAIRNESS" in this context is:

Israel detects a bottle rocket was fired from a caravan and calls in an air strike to indiscriminately mow down people

Israel uses Palantir facial recognition software and detects a potential Hamas militant in a refugee camp, so calls in an air strike

calling the stage of this conflict a war is pitiful. Israel hasn't faced any significant resistant at any point during the war, at all. but even if we're more generous than logic and reason demand they haven't had anything even approaching militant resistance in 2 years.

we can easily say that it's "fair" to suggest that a boot on the ground invasion of Gaza city would have caused too many casualties to be worth it. and that's why they ordered an evacuation and demolished it with airstrikes until it was in a large enough pile of rubble they could safely come in and fill the tunnels in with cement. that's "fair", for what its worth.

the rest is just bullying, plain and simple. Hamas hasn't even tried to put up a fight. Israel would have loved if they did, even if it caused a lot more civilian casualties via human shielding. Hamas mostly tucked tail and tried to hide weaponless among the fleeing civilian population. in any other war this would have been called an unconditional surrender, but the israeli's aren't pleased with this. so they sought to kill each one like rats. im not defending hamas, or even suggesting their members dont deserve to die. but every action carries a cost, in this case a very severe cost, both of civilians and israeli reputation. they've been relegated to using butchers tactics usually seen in africa to root out surrendered militants among women and children. and in the result they've broken the one rule civilized nations never break, attacking refugee camps. even in iraq during the shock and awe phases we never did, let alone after once the shock set in. we never denied UN peace keeper entry anywhere near this rate. or denied food and water. israel has become the monster it claims to hate, about time. they've been this bad for a long time, now its just more known. i was taking 10% warns in this very sub 10 years ago mocking mods by calling them baby killers, now most people think they're baby killers. feels bad to be right all the same. gaza city is a red herring, its israeli propaganda to distract from crimes far worse. i said 2 years ago gaza city was destined for dust, and predicted they'd start killing and starving civilians. again, doesnt feel good to be right.
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Nov 21 2025 03:58pm
"FAIRNESS" in this context is:

Israel detects a bottle rocket was fired from a caravan and calls in an air strike to indiscriminately mow down people

Israel uses Palantir facial recognition software and detects a potential Hamas militant in a refugee camp, so calls in an air strike

calling the stage of this conflict a war is pitiful. Israel hasn't faced any significant resistant at any point during the war, at all. but even if we're more generous than logic and reason demand they haven't had anything even approaching militant resistance in 2 years.

we can easily say that it's "fair" to suggest that a boot on the ground invasion of Gaza city would have caused too many casualties to be worth it. and that's why they ordered an evacuation and demolished it with airstrikes until it was in a large enough pile of rubble they could safely come in and fill the tunnels in with cement. that's "fair", for what its worth.

the rest is just bullying, plain and simple. Hamas hasn't even tried to put up a fight. Israel would have loved if they did, even if it caused a lot more civilian casualties via human shielding. Hamas mostly tucked tail and tried to hide weaponless among the fleeing civilian population. in any other war this would have been called an unconditional surrender, but the israeli's aren't pleased with this. so they sought to kill each one like rats. im not defending hamas, or even suggesting their members dont deserve to die. but every action carries a cost, in this case a very severe cost, both of civilians and israeli reputation. they've been relegated to using butchers tactics usually seen in africa to root out surrendered militants among women and children. and in the result they've broken the one rule civilized nations never break, attacking refugee camps. even in iraq during the shock and awe phases we never did, let alone after once the shock set in. we never denied UN peace keeper entry anywhere near this rate. or denied food and water. israel has become the monster it claims to hate, about time. they've been this bad for a long time, now its just more known. i was taking 10% warns in this very sub 10 years ago mocking mods by calling them baby killers, now most people think they're baby killers. feels bad to be right all the same. gaza city is a red herring, its israeli propaganda to distract from crimes far worse. i said 2 years ago gaza city was destined for dust, and predicted they'd start killing and starving civilians. again, doesnt feel good to be right.


Well you’re pivoting. I can answer your new question if you’d like, but it doesn’t affect the conversation we were having.

Unconditional surrender is an agreement to, get this, surrender with no conditions. You give up all your rights to negotiation. What you said is a simple lie. Hamas has not surrendered unconditionally, if they did a key term imposed would have been the, again, surrender of all militants. This has not happened, obviously.

Losing consistently is not unconditional surrender by any stretch of the imagination.

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Nov 21 2025 04:01pm
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