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Aug 11 2024 01:13pm
Quote (IceMage @ 11 Aug 2024 21:04)
Even assuming what you say is true about a lack of substance, does that matter? Can you tell me the substance behind Trump's campaign? What was the substantive message at his latest press conference? What policy point was he defending by arguing his crowds are bigger than Martin Luther King Jr's were?

She's not Trump and she's not Biden, that gives her a lot of votes. She has performed pretty well so far. She's going to roll out more policy and she'll have to give interviews, but it's hard to see how the ticket crashes and burns. Republicans chose a very unpopular candidate because the party is a personality cult and people are thrilled to have a choice who is not Trump or Biden.


Trump doesn't need to talk about policy all the time since he has already been president and voters know what they will get with a second Trump term. Also, when he's talking about inflation, immigration and such, he is talking about policy, even if you don't like what he has to say.

I'll admit, though, that he has been focusing more on personal attacks and stupid identity-based stuff in recent weeks. Trump was uncharacteristically focused and disciplined this year until the convention, and it served him well. The last few weeks, he has fallen back into bad old habits a little.

In the other thread, I explicitly said that I expect this race to be tight and go down to the wire. Harris won't completely collapse. Still: throughout her entire political career, Kamala has always been unpopular and bad at her job. I don't see how those fundamentals are supposed to have changed over night. The more the electorate gets to know Kamala, the less popular she will become.
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Aug 11 2024 01:17pm
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Trump doesn't need to talk about policy all the time since he has already been president and voters know what they will get with a second Trump term. Also, when he's talking about inflation, immigration and such, he is talking about policy, even if you don't like what he has to say.

I'll admit, though, that he has been focusing more on personal attacks and stupid identity-based stuff in recent weeks. Trump was uncharacteristically focused and disciplined this year until the convention, and it served him well. The last few weeks, he has fallen back into bad old habits a little.

In the other thread, I explicitly said that I expect this race to be tight and go down to the wire. Harris won't completely collapse. Still: throughout her entire political career, Kamala has always been unpopular and bad at her job. I don't see how those fundamentals are supposed to have changed over night. The more the electorate gets to know Kamala, the less popular she will become.


Whatever the corporate/billionaire medias spam 24/7 is the truth. So if all the news channel around the world/ social medias owned by the same rich people want Kamala to win, you can be sure it'll be non stop pro Kamala news segment to the point the woke/npc mass will regurgitate what's been said on their devices till the election. Just look around, you can clearly see when you go out that 99 people out of 100 are clueless npcs who have their nose in their phone/devices reading the same news piece as everyone else and browsing the same social medias as everyone else. There's a shortage of real men and women who live in the real world.

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Aug 11 2024 01:27pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 11 2024 12:13pm)
Trump doesn't need to talk about policy all the time since he has already been president and voters know what they will get with a second Trump term. Also, when he's talking about inflation, immigration and such, he is talking about policy, even if you don't like what he has to say.

I'll admit, though, that he has been focusing more on personal attacks and stupid identity-based stuff in recent weeks. Trump was uncharacteristically focused and disciplined this year until the convention, and it served him well. The last few weeks, he has fallen back into bad old habits a little.

In the other thread, I explicitly said that I expect this race to be tight and go down to the wire. Harris won't completely collapse. Still: throughout her entire political career, Kamala has always been unpopular and bad at her job. I don't see how those fundamentals are supposed to have changed over night. The more the electorate gets to know Kamala, the less popular she will become.


Sure, keep playing the old hits devoid of any policy, see how that works for ya. Lol.

The fundamentals were Trump vs Biden, two bad choices. Now voters have another choice, and that choice has performed well. I don't think Kamala has always been unpopular and bad at her job, she was an effective senator and that's why she ran for president in 2019. I think her job is easy because her opponents are a couple negative weirdos.
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Aug 11 2024 01:29pm
Quote (iLoveMyUsername @ Aug 11 2024 02:17pm)
Whatever the corporate/billionaire medias spam 24/7 is the truth. So if all the news channel around the world/ social medias owned by the same rich people want Kamala to win, you can be sure it'll be non stop pro Kamala news segment to the point the woke/npc mass will regurgitate what's been said on their devices till the election. Just look around, you can clearly see when you go out that 99 people out of 100 are clueless npcs who have their nose in their phone/devices reading the same news piece as everyone else and browsing the same social medias as everyone else. There's a shortage of real men and women who live in the real world.


She didn't even finish one term as senator, and she achieved nothing other than being a rubber stamp in the senate.
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Aug 11 2024 02:26pm
Harris is rallying around things she plans to do.
Why doesn't she start doing them now as VP?

Biden was maga lite, he didn't play ball with the far left.
Harris is far left and Biden doesn't get a say.
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Aug 11 2024 03:13pm
Quote (IceMage @ Aug 11 2024 02:04pm)
Even assuming what you say is true about a lack of substance, does that matter? Can you tell me the substance behind Trump's campaign? What was the substantive message at his latest press conference? What policy point was he defending by arguing his crowds are bigger than Martin Luther King Jr's were?

She's not Trump and she's not Biden, that gives her a lot of votes. She has performed pretty well so far. She's going to roll out more policy and she'll have to give interviews, but it's hard to see how the ticket crashes and burns. Republicans chose a very unpopular candidate because the party is a personality cult and people are thrilled to have a choice who is not Trump or Biden.


Trump ran a campaign in 2016 about rejuvenating the economy. He's running a campaign in 2024 about rejuvenating the economy. Everything else like immigration stems from that. He once again has the coherence to his policy platform he didn't in the pandemic. Harris is echoing Clinton of 2016 in her almost totally policy-free campaign. At least Clinton ran 100% on smears against Trump, at this point Kamala is running on the fact that Kamala is running, an ouroboros of the party elite institution / media going full circlejerk.

You've made a lot of spiel in the past decade about the appearance of propriety, a deference to political stability when I called out for substance. Forget substance, even on your own favored terms, how can you possibly be okay with the arsonist wing of the democratic party throwing out the entire primary process, forcibly seizing the candidacy from the incumbent who you know fully intended to run for reelection, and then put on the tag team that burned lake street? Trump is following in the footsteps of dozens of American politicians and several presidents as he has followed the political process and campaigned for his position fairly. The democrats just overturned decades of precedent and stable political continuity in a desperate mad gamble to cling to power.

I used to crusade for civil liberties and reasonable policy objectives, at this point I'm just sticking up for "lets actually have a democracy"
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Aug 11 2024 06:23pm
Icepeon got in line like a good little boy, news at 11
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I don’t think we can vote our way out of this decline
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Aug 11 2024 07:43pm
Quote (NomadReborn @ Aug 11 2024 07:57pm)
I don’t think we can vote our way out of this decline


You cannot even vote your way out of policy changes.
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Aug 11 2024 09:59pm
https://x.com/NoVA_Campaigns/status/1822821614490185970

They're gonna be mining old Tim Walz speeches for content for weeks now
"I had the privilege of serving in this state's national guard. I stood one night in the dark of night on the tarmac at Bagram Air Base in Iraq"

That would be like Donald Trump saying;
"I had the privilege of serving in the new york military academy. I stood one dark night in Saigon in North Korea"
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