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Oct 3 2023 01:26pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 3 2023 01:20pm)
You mean the party that literally wants to build a giant wall to stop minority immigration (because immigrants are vastly left leaning) needs to get the minorities 'on board'

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https://www.prb.org/resources/immigration-gives-catholicism-a-boost-in-the-united-states/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Pew%20report%2C%20nearly%20half%20of%20the%20U.S.,percent%20have%20no%20religious%20affiliation.

Go away tistuff you don’t know how religion works.
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Oct 3 2023 01:46pm
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And yet Republicans are the ones crashing and burning.

Curious


imo the dems are a loss at POTUS away from their own identity crisis. its easy to feel comfortable when you've had 3 out of the last 4 presidencies. people may start asking some hard hitting questions about the direction of the party if there is a loss, as compared to 2016 when those questions were drowned out by RUSSIA.

on the flip side the GOP has avoided some of those same questions by a noteworthy percent of their voter base crying foul for the loss.

but i dont think the DNC can be the anti-MAGA, anti-FACISM, etc party forever. its one thing to have ideals (universal healthcare, free college, anti corporation, etc) but the left needs a big win, imo. like Obamacare level big win. and i dont know what front that comes in.
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Oct 3 2023 01:52pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 3 2023 02:46pm)
imo the dems are a loss at POTUS away from their own identity crisis. its easy to feel comfortable when you've had 3 out of the last 4 presidencies. people may start asking some hard hitting questions about the direction of the party if there is a loss, as compared to 2016 when those questions were drowned out by RUSSIA.

on the flip side the GOP has avoided some of those same questions by a noteworthy percent of their voter base crying foul for the loss.

but i dont think the DNC can be the anti-MAGA, anti-FACISM, etc party forever. its one thing to have ideals (universal healthcare, free college, anti corporation, etc) but the left needs a big win, imo. like Obamacare level big win. and i dont know what front that comes in.


I don't know where it goes after, but currently literally everything is on Biden's side for a win in 2024. Unless something big changes it's going to be pretty clear. The reasons I think that are as follows:

Trump has only shrunk his base of support among independents.
Biden has sured up some support in student loans and unions.
Gen Z is masively rallied by abortion as an issue and the promise of student loan relief.
Dems have overperformed in something like 24/30 special elections since the last midterm.
Current polling averages have Biden at equal or slightly beating Trump nationally, meanwhile Trump is in an active campaign and Biden isn't.
Biden is over-performing in virtually all battleground states on top of that slight national average.
Trump is overwhelmingly likely to be convicted (rightfully so, I might add) of several of his charges, and when asked if that happens independents go from a +2 Biden to a +6 Biden.

The election is pretty far out, but as it stands Biden is in an extremely strong position. And not like, Hillary Clinton strong, because Trump is not a wild card anymore. In 2016 Trump overperformed because a lot of voters thought "Trump probably won't change anything, but Hillary DEFINITELY won't, so I'll go Trump". In a fight where you know for a fact neither candidate will massively reorganize the system, then the safe candidate wins. Which is Biden.


Now going after 2024.... I have no fucking clue. Long-term candidates like Biden and Clinton have choked out a lot of the young life in the Democrat party. The machine has pushed geriatrics to the forefront and pushed down anybody who wants to fundamentally change things. So there really is a big hole waiting to be filled by new talent, and I don't know if it will be.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 3 2023 01:53pm
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I don't know where it goes after, but currently literally everything is on Biden's side for a win in 2024. Unless something big changes it's going to be pretty clear. The reasons I think that are as follows:

Trump has only shrunk his base of support among independents.
Biden has sured up some support in student loans and unions.
Gen Z is masively rallied by abortion as an issue and the promise of student loan relief.
Current polling averages have Biden at equal or slightly beating Trump nationally, meanwhile Trump is in an active campaign and Biden isn't.
Biden is over-performing in virtually all battleground states on top of that slight national average.
Trump is overwhelmingly likely to be convicted (rightfully so, I might add) of several of his charges, and when asked if that happens independents go from a +2 Biden to a +6 Biden.

The election is pretty far out, but as it stands Biden is in an extremely strong position. And not like, Hillary Clinton strong, because Trump is not a wild card anymore. In 2016 Trump overperformed because a lot of voters thought "Trump probably won't change anything, but Hillary DEFINITELY won't, so I'll go Trump". In a fight where you know for a fact neither candidate will massively reorganize the system, then the safe candidate wins. Which is Biden.


Now going after 2024.... I have no fucking clue. Long-term candidates like Biden and Clinton have choked out a lot of the young life in the Democrat party. The machine has pushed geriatrics to the forefront and pushed down anybody who wants to fundamentally change things. So there really is a big hole waiting to be filled by new talent, and I don't know if it will be.


before the UAW debacle from Trump, and much better reaction by Biden, i'd have disagreed on unions. but boy did trump fuck that up. overall i agree with most of this.

my worry for the DNC is its HARD to maintain excitement for change with legacy candidates and leadership. this party needs to change hands, Biden and co. should pass the torch. and preferably imprison Pelosi for insider trading to set a new standard.
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Oct 3 2023 02:15pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Oct 3 2023 08:09am)
It's pretty great watching all these MAGA hats denying any wrongdoing by their oversized life coach.
Lot so much ButITSHiLLARY and continued lack of ability to cope with reality.
grandma isn't even in politics anymore just a reminder to the REdHaTS
**shocker I tell ya.


hahahahahaha REEEEEEEEEEussia collusion
hahahahahahaha take to the streets Burning Looting and Murdering
hAHAHAHAHAHA put a diaper on your face
hahahahahah trump/gates 'vaccine 100% safe 100% effective
hahahahahahaha lock down your non essential get poor
hahahahahah jan 6th they the criminals/ iNsYrReCTiOn
hahahahahah covid from a bat dr fraudie gain of function research totally totally dissinfo
hahahahahaha 'immigrants 'vaccine exempt also dont give a chit what diseases they bring in
hahahahahah count votes in secret
HAHAHAHAHAHAH NOBODYS ABOVE THE LAW
hahahaha totally 'legit judge values property
hahahahaha TDS lets us get away with anything

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAW HAW HAWWWWW

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Turns out Trump's expert appraisals weren't allowed in because when the judge asked him who would be prepared to buy the property for his appraised value he said "I could dream up any number of people" and then went on to list unrealistic buyers like Elon Musk and various heads of state. Judge called bullshit on an obviously bullshit piece of testimony as he's allowed to do. Trump isn't getting that overturned on appeal.

Also learned that the reason why MAL is so much lower than its surrounding comps is becuase Trump gave up his rights to develop it in a similar fashion to surrounding properties, so it would necessarily only sell at an incredibly steep discount given that restriction.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 6 2023 12:24pm
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Oct 6 2023 12:26pm
gather round everyone!

Legal Eagle vid just dropped


you know its gonna be a good video when NUKED is in the thumbnail

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Oct 6 2023 04:54pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 6 2023 12:26pm)
gather round everyone!

Legal Eagle vid just dropped


you know its gonna be a good video when NUKED is in the thumbnail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilZt4lomngU


The guy that gets everything wrong. Now this explains everything.
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The guy that gets everything wrong. Now this explains everything.


What has he gotten wrong?
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Oct 6 2023 05:35pm
lots of mental illness in the politics section of jsp

nothing new here.

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