This one is pretty much factual, the oligarchy does not care who is in power.

That's not true. The oligarchy overwhelmingly backed Hillary against Trump in 2016. Most of them REALLY didnt want him to win.

Trump didnt start ww3, didnt deport 10m+ cheap laborers and didnt escalate his trade wars with China or Mexico too much. Since he also gave them nice tax cuts and soaring stock markets, they have arranged themselves with his presidency and could probably live with another Trump term. But I would assume that they would still have a clear preference for Biden over him.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 4 2020 08:03pm

You think trump didn't have strong backing?
Trump is the oligarchy.

ya that pro wall street, tax lowering, military backing, anti Chinese intellectual property theft, billionaire businessman had a terrible time getting support...

media =/= American oligarchy, the media is just their voice, and they rarely speak.

She raised nearly 2x he did and it wasn’t as a result of some great grassroots efforts. She was the anointed one in 2016 there’s no question about that.


Most news media today is owned by large corporations, it’s naive to think those interests don’t bleed into what they tell the masses. I mean just look at how Barnie was treated the last two election cycles.

yes, an unpredictable wildcard who was flirting with ending all free trade agreements, deporting millions of cheap laborers and starting an all-out trade war against china did have a hard time getting support, even if he also had some upside.
and keep in mind that hilary was also pro wall street and a foreign policy hawk/military backing. instead of tax cuts, she promised more government spending. (nobody in 2016 could forsee that Trump would get away with just doing both at once at the expense of a blown up deficit.)

regarding chinese intellectual property theft: corporate america has put up with this abuse by the Chinese for a long time for the sake of short-term profits. there's no question that in 2016, corporate america would have preferred the status quo on china over what trump had in mind, or later ended up actually doing.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 4 2020 09:45pm

Lol. I just wonder who you think Trump is.

Reason hillary got more money than trump is simple, she was leading the race by a wide margin, the oligarchs do not care who wins but they DO want to own the winner.
If trump was out polling hillary and was the heavy favourite to win that money would have been coming his way.

In my country in 2007 we saw it first hand, kevin rudd (extremely left) was OVERWHELMINGLY leading and rupurt murdochs entire empire got behind him and donations started rolling in.


This post was edited by Plaguefear on Mar 4 2020 10:57pm

I'm talking about who people in 2016 thought Trump is, or might turn out to be.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 4 2020 11:04pm