hasnt the EU given Ireland the inofficial lead on this whole thing for quite some time? it definitely makes sense, since Ireland is the EU member which by far will be affected by Brexit the most.

if the EU would stop with the border bullshit between northern ireland and ireland things would be much easier

they never cared about the outer border until recently, no matter the dangers or how fucked up some situations still are or have been in the past, but suddenly one of the least troublesome borders in europe becomes a problem

fuck yeah

there are actually controls on the outer european border. the fact that those controls fail to stop or channel illegal immigrants doesnt mean that there are no such controls at all.
the peace in northern ireland is still fragile, and completely unrestricted movement of people and goods between NI and I is one of the main factors defusing the situation.
it created a status quo which was "close enough" to a united ireland that the republicans (in the sense of irish nationalism/republicanism) could live with it, while leaving NI formally a part of the UK and thus satisfying the unionists as well.

even though I consider the warnings about an "imminent reemergence of The Troubles" to be far too dramatic, finding a working solution will nonetheless be far from trivial.

If there's no deal, there's no Brexit...

well, there are a handful of boats in the mediterranean, but the actual work is done by the national states
without the efforts of a handful of countries taking matters into their own hands we would have 10 million illegals migrants here by now

but thats only one of the many problems, i am still waiting for the schengen agreement to be fully enforced, which was supposed to provide joint border protection programs, databases etc

i dont even wanna know the amount of firearms for example being smuggled into central and western europe through our southwestern borders and ukraine (since the conflict there started)
there was an interesting article in a police magazine some time ago, where a high ranking BKA officer warned that the ukraine conflict was christmas for illegal arms dealers

a much easier route than the balkans and only one actual border to cross into poland

but hey, frontex is getting some extra people..........in 2027 maybe

ampoo is right in a way, but there are very few options and as we're the ones leaving we should have had a plan on how to proceed with the Irish border issue.

The use of technology to prevent border checks is a fantasy and an unworkable proposition.

We could have no checks at the Irish border and instead have them on the ports at Belfast, but the EU don't want that.

The 'easiest' option from a legal perspective would be the reunification of Ireland, but near enough 50% of the NI population are hardcore Brits. The result would be a civil war.

but arent the unionists, particularly the DUP on which May relies, firmly opposed to a customs border between Belfast/'NI in general' and the rest of the UK?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 6 2019 02:47pm

Yeah but they vote against the government's deal every time so why wouldn't they do it?

well, if May votes for a deal which establishes a customs border between NI and the rest of the UK, say together with some Labour or TIG MPs, there is no reason for the DUP to support her government anymore.
after May turns on them like that, they would then have all the incentive in the world to turn return the favor and overthrow her.
this would then pave the way to a new election which presumably would be an unmitigated disaster for the Tories after May has just passed a super-soft brexit deal together with Labour/TIG.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 7 2019 01:36am

Maybe they should just... build a wall.