Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 29 2023 02:22pm)
And what alternative does Israel have to removing Hamas as a security threat?
Live in fear of the next attack?
Live under perpetual missile fire?
Hamas want a ceasefire, what about the hostages?
Hamas doesn't respect the Palestinians they claim to represent, yet you expect Israel to respect those people more than even Hamas does?
Its illogical.
How is it illogical?
Hamas are barbaric, we all agree on this. Breaking down your response:
1. Hamas does not respect the Palestinian civilians - I agree.
2. You question why I expect Israel to respect Palestinian civilians
My response is : I thought Israel was better then Hamas.
Quote (fender @ Oct 29 2023 02:13pm)
that is a strawman though. literally no one is saying that.
people are pointing out that indiscriminately bombing churches, residential areas, evacuation routes, and schools at will, that cutting water, power, and aid to millions of people (most of which women and children) is NOT "targeting" hamas, but rather slaughtering civilians for revenge. israel is acting EXACTLY like the terrorists did, just on a much larger scale, with significantly bigger long term impact.
"targeting" hamas would involve using intelligence, special ops, and precision strikes against confirmed targets, and not the flattening of half of gaza while killing thousands of innocent people and creating a massive humanitarian crisis.
the only thing "outrageous" here are the lame excuses for ethnic cleansing and mass murder.
I know we have disagreed at length elsewhere but I completely agree with you in this topic.
This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 29 2023 07:29am