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Oct 29 2023 03:58am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 29 2023 06:47am)
Post a list of Christian, Jewish, Hindu terrorist attacks.

I'll wait.


Why would I do that? I think you missed the point

Isn't your PM muslim? Lol

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Oct 29 2023 06:27am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 29 2023 09:38am)
Of course it's nod to genocide, but with sufficient "plausible deniability" that it doesn't scare away those predisposed to support the Palestinian cause.



The attempt to kill 2 billion people over their religious belief would be the biggest, most deplorable crime in human history. And it would set the whole world ablaze. Terrorism and war all across the globe would be the result. And it should be easy to see why this attempt would ultimately fail.

Let me put it like this: say a super advanced alien race showed up tomorrow and beamed all muslims up their huge spaceship to bring them to some other inhabitable planet, do I think that earth and humanity would be better off as a result? Yes, without a doubt.


i mean the world is large enough for everybody

if you want to live like a caveman thats cool, there are places, where this is acceptable

just stay in your lane and leave other people alone, but unfortunately the religion of peace cant do it
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Oct 29 2023 06:38am
Quote (ferdia @ Oct 29 2023 04:40am)
The Pakistani UN Rep made a speech, I could not find it on the UN site and as I understand it d2jsp bars the posting of video's from countries outside of Western countries, but its well worth watching.
Israel has now killed 7000 and injured another 17000. No end in sight.

All this hate speech is really turning me off this thread. I am amazed people are brazenly asking for all muslims to be wiped off the planet. there is only one side systematically flattening the other.


The government of Gaza invaded Israel and killed over a thousand of its citizens. It goes without saying that they're at war. No government would tolerate an enemy next door who routinely walks in, kills its citizens, and then races back to the nearest school or hospital building to hide. The expectation that Hamas can attack Israel, specifically targeting Israeli civilians, but that Israel cannot target Hamas because Hamas is firing rockets out of civilian buildings is pretty outrageous.
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Oct 29 2023 06:42am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 29 2023 09:27am)
i mean the world is large enough for everybody

if you want to live like a caveman thats cool, there are places, where this is acceptable

just stay in your lane and leave other people alone, but unfortunately the religion of peace cant do it


Degenerate westerners are much more violent and hateful than Muslims, funny how quickly people like you start deep throating establishment boots as soon as there is a chance to kill some brown people.

I suppose it is easy to hate a group when all your information about them comes from social media edgelords who also know nothing about them
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Oct 29 2023 06:55am
Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 29 2023 01:38pm)
The government of Gaza invaded Israel and killed over a thousand of its citizens. It goes without saying that they're at war. No government would tolerate an enemy next door who routinely walks in, kills its citizens, and then races back to the nearest school or hospital building to hide. The expectation that Hamas can attack Israel, specifically targeting Israeli civilians, but that Israel cannot target Hamas because Hamas is firing rockets out of civilian buildings is pretty outrageous.


OK, as long as you accept that what is happening is war crimes, crimes against humanity & genocide, on the part of Israel, carry on (because that is exactly what we are seeing).

Calling every Palestinian Hamas, is a blanket statement, when this is not a true statement, but that it is being used to brush over these mass killings.

The definition of Genocide: the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
War Crimes: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml
Crimes Against Humanity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimes_against_humanity
Genocide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions

While I accept a large portion of people, in this thread, are denying this, the definitions are there for everyone to read.

Everyone condemned and condemns Hamas for their crimes against humanity. Because its barbaric. Therefore, dont be surprised whenever everyone also condemns Israel for their crimes against humanity. Look at the numbers of dead.

This topic blows my mind. How either / both sides can say death to everyone etc and not be kicked out of this sub-forum for a month, I dont know.

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Oct 29 2023 07:13am
Quote (bogie160 @ 29 Oct 2023 13:38)
The government of Gaza invaded Israel and killed over a thousand of its citizens. It goes without saying that they're at war. No government would tolerate an enemy next door who routinely walks in, kills its citizens, and then races back to the nearest school or hospital building to hide. The expectation that Hamas can attack Israel, specifically targeting Israeli civilians, but that Israel cannot target Hamas because Hamas is firing rockets out of civilian buildings is pretty outrageous.


that is a strawman though. literally no one is saying that.

people are pointing out that indiscriminately bombing churches, residential areas, evacuation routes, and schools at will, that cutting water, power, and aid to millions of people (most of which women and children) is NOT "targeting" hamas, but rather slaughtering civilians for revenge. israel is acting EXACTLY like the terrorists did, just on a much larger scale, with significantly bigger long term impact.

"targeting" hamas would involve using intelligence, special ops, and precision strikes against confirmed targets, and not the flattening of half of gaza while killing thousands of innocent people and creating a massive humanitarian crisis.

the only thing "outrageous" here are the lame excuses for ethnic cleansing and mass murder.
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Oct 29 2023 07:22am
Quote (ferdia @ Oct 29 2023 12:55pm)
OK, as long as you accept that what is happening is war crimes, crimes against humanity & genocide, on the part of Israel, carry on (because that is exactly what we are seeing).

Calling every Palestinian Hamas, is a blanket statement, when this is not a true statement, but that it is being used to brush over these mass killings.

The definition of Genocide: the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
War Crimes: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml
Crimes Against Humanity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimes_against_humanity
Genocide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions

While I accept a large portion of people, in this thread, are denying this, the definitions are there for everyone to read.

Everyone condemned and condemns Hamas for their crimes against humanity. Because its barbaric. Therefore, dont be surprised whenever everyone also condemns Israel for their crimes against humanity. Look at the numbers of dead.

This topic blows my mind. How either / both sides and say death to everyone etc and not be kicked out of this sub-forum for a month, I dont know.


And what alternative does Israel have to removing Hamas as a security threat?
Live in fear of the next attack?
Live under perpetual missile fire?

Hamas want a ceasefire, what about the hostages?

Hamas doesn't respect the Palestinians they claim to represent, yet you expect Israel to respect those people more than even Hamas does?

Its illogical.

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Oct 29 2023 07:25am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 29 2023 01:42pm)
Degenerate westerners are much more violent and hateful than Muslims, funny how quickly people like you start deep throating establishment boots as soon as there is a chance to kill some brown people.

I suppose it is easy to hate a group when all your information about them comes from social media edgelords who also know nothing about them


i dont think i ever took the side of other degenerates or western warmongers

however i do take the side of israel here as they defend themselves against another holocaust

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Oct 29 2023 07:28am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 29 2023 02:22pm)
And what alternative does Israel have to removing Hamas as a security threat?
Live in fear of the next attack?
Live under perpetual missile fire?

Hamas want a ceasefire, what about the hostages?

Hamas doesn't respect the Palestinians they claim to represent, yet you expect Israel to respect those people more than even Hamas does?

Its illogical.


How is it illogical?

Hamas are barbaric, we all agree on this. Breaking down your response:

1. Hamas does not respect the Palestinian civilians - I agree.
2. You question why I expect Israel to respect Palestinian civilians

My response is : I thought Israel was better then Hamas.

Quote (fender @ Oct 29 2023 02:13pm)
that is a strawman though. literally no one is saying that.

people are pointing out that indiscriminately bombing churches, residential areas, evacuation routes, and schools at will, that cutting water, power, and aid to millions of people (most of which women and children) is NOT "targeting" hamas, but rather slaughtering civilians for revenge. israel is acting EXACTLY like the terrorists did, just on a much larger scale, with significantly bigger long term impact.

"targeting" hamas would involve using intelligence, special ops, and precision strikes against confirmed targets, and not the flattening of half of gaza while killing thousands of innocent people and creating a massive humanitarian crisis.

the only thing "outrageous" here are the lame excuses for ethnic cleansing and mass murder.


I know we have disagreed at length elsewhere but I completely agree with you in this topic.

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Oct 29 2023 07:35am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 29 2023 10:25am)
i dont think i ever took the side of other degenerates or western warmongers

however i do take the side of israel here as they defend themselves against another holocaust


That is exactly what you are doing and you are one of the degenerates.
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