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Apr 4 2019 11:57am
Quote (dro94 @ 4 Apr 2019 18:54)
No deal will actually benefit me in terms of domestic price levels and in my line of work regardless, so bring it on buddy...


Yep i remember you even said you were ready to leave your country if things turn bad - for you -.
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Apr 4 2019 12:38pm
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Yep i remember you even said you were ready to leave your country if things turn bad - for you -.


More like if things get worse here then other places will naturally become a more attractive proposition.

If there was no deal and we went into recession, houses and other domestic assets would sharply drop in value so would represent an opportunity for buyers. The currency devaluation would be really good for those of us holding stocks in FTSE 100 British multinationals like AstraZenica. There's plenty of opportunity in all this mess.
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Apr 4 2019 03:48pm
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Another country failing to deport fugitives, assuming that another state's court isn't doing their job properly, which is the kind of assumption that should have no place in the EU, be it Sweden or Bulgaria. A country with a flawed justice system shouldn't be part of the EU... we either get rid of those that we believe are twisting the judiciary system, or we assume they follow the right procedures. Anything else just weakens the union.

Are the foster parents non-swedish citizens? What's the objective reasoning to declare the household foreign? Note the word objective... we need something legally tangible that can draw the line, so as to not leave this and other cases open to the subjective interpretation of judges.

Note that I have no particular opinion in this case due to the lack of information, but I do believe in 'in dubio, pro reo'... so the burden of providing objective evidence rests upon those accusing the Swedish court of violating EU regulations.


first of all, children shouldnt be taken away from their parents just because of unemployment.
second, children from a christian household should generally not be placed in a household of a different religion. no matter if its muslims, jews, buddists or adherents of the flying spaghetti monster.
third, if the parents whose kids are to be taken away did not commit violent crimes to justify putting the kids in foster care, then those parents should get at least some say over the environment where their kids will be placed.
fourth, I understand international arrest warrants in cases where one parent is trying to abduct his/her children from the other parent. but in a case where a father who hasnt committed any crimes by the looks of it is taking his children away from foster parents, it is grossly inordinate to put them on a "most wanted" list. unemployment surely does not erase the legitimacy of a father/mother.

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first of all, children shouldnt be taken away from their parents just because of unemployment.


that's a bit of an over-simplification, isn't it? guess that happens if you jump to conclusions without even knowing any details about the case and just uncritically accept right wing propaganda.
that being said, why do you hate the rule of law so much? coming from someone who always (rightfully) insists that immigrants have to follow the laws of the country they chose to live in, that's a strange position.

i'm kidding of course, it's not actually 'strange' as in 'mysterious where you might be coming from' - it's rather obvious what your massive double standard is based on - just wanted to let you know that your bigotry is showing again...

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Apr 4 2019 04:43pm
why am i not suprised that this is happening in sweden

let migrant ghettoes explode in violence, rapists get probation if they are punished at all, surrender your country over the fear of being called a racist, but taking children from their families for no reason.....lets do it

fuck yeah sweden!

Quote (zarkadon @ 4 Apr 2019 18:58)
Another country failing to deport fugitives, assuming that another state's court isn't doing their job properly, which is the kind of assumption that should have no place in the EU, be it Sweden or Bulgaria. A country with a flawed justice system shouldn't be part of the EU... we either get rid of those that we believe are twisting the judiciary system, or we assume they follow the right procedures. Anything else just weakens the union.

Are the foster parents non-swedish citizens? What's the objective reasoning to declare the household foreign? Note the word objective... we need something legally tangible that can draw the line, so as to not leave this and other cases open to the subjective interpretation of judges.

Note that I have no particular opinion in this case due to the lack of information, but I do believe in 'in dubio, pro reo'... so the burden of providing objective evidence rests upon those accusing the Swedish court of violating EU regulations.


by these standards germany would be out of the EU tomorrow

p.s: fenderp still cant deal with the brexit vote
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Apr 4 2019 04:53pm
Quote (fender @ 4 Apr 2019 23:18)
that's a bit of an over-simplification, isn't it? guess that happens if you jump to conclusions without even knowing any details about the case and just uncritically accept right wing propaganda.
that being said, why do you hate the rule of law so much? coming from someone who always (rightfully) insists that immigrants have to follow the laws of the country they chose to live in, that's a strange position.


and I guess you're jumping to the conclusion that this is "right-wing propaganda" without knowing the details of the case either.

rule of law is important, but sometimes the law is dysfunctional or injustice.

if you want to accuse me of a double standard, feel free to point out an instance where I demanded obedience of the law at the expense their own children from immigrants/muslims living in a western country.
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Apr 4 2019 11:50pm
since when does fender suddenly care about the law?
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since when does fender suddenly care about the law?


unlike you guys, who only hide behind the 'rule of law' argument when you want to hide your shitty and bigoted stances, but abandon it as soon as it fits your narrative (like in this case), i am pretty consistent regarding my general support for it - at least in western style healthy democracies that is.
also, i'm not the guy constantly touting it as excuse for my bigotry, so nice try but another fail...
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Apr 5 2019 12:28am
Quote (fender @ 5 Apr 2019 08:19)
unlike you guys, who only hide behind the 'rule of law' argument when you want to hide your shitty and bigoted stances, but abandon it as soon as it fits your narrative (like in this case), i am pretty consistent regarding my general support for it - at least in western style healthy democracies that is.
also, i'm not the guy constantly touting it as excuse for my bigotry, so nice try but another fail...


"rule of law" and "legal positivism" arent the same thing.
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Apr 5 2019 12:34am
Quote (fender @ 5 Apr 2019 08:19)
unlike you guys, who only hide behind the 'rule of law' argument when you want to hide your shitty and bigoted stances, but abandon it as soon as it fits your narrative (like in this case), i am pretty consistent regarding my general support for it - at least in western style healthy democracies that is.
also, i'm not the guy constantly touting it as excuse for my bigotry, so nice try but another fail...


feel free to point out where i ever abandoned my rule of law stance

and no, i dont expect anything from the number 1 fake news merchant here
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