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Apr 3 2019 05:44am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 3 Apr 2019 08:15)
Jesus christ...

I'm somewhat supportive of the idea of a Brexit, and didnt like how the EU has been playing hardball on the substantive level throughout the negotiations. But even I am starting to lose my patience and sympathy with May and the Brits.
Could they just get their shit together please and either tell the rest of the EU what they want, or fuck off with a hard Brexit on April 12th? :rolleyes:


Eu should accept to give the delay while T.May does a deal with Corbyn, like triggering new elections just before she resign ? :lol:
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Apr 3 2019 05:28pm
it has happened guys, a successful vote in british parliament :thumbsup:

313 in favour vs 312 against asking for another extension
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47809717
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Apr 4 2019 04:55am
https://samnytt.se/socialtjansten-ville-tvangsplacera-tre-barn-hos-libanesisk-familj-familjen-flydde-till-polen-och-fick-stanna/
http://tass.com/society/1051821

brewing miniscandal between Sweden, Poland & Russia
A christian Russian couple moved to Sweden in 2017 with 3 young daughters. The wife fell ill and the family struggled to keep their jobs, and Swedish social services came and took away their daughters and put them into foster care on the basis that they did not have full employment- placing them in a fundamentalism muslim lebanese household. The father was predictably irate and took his daughters out of the foster home and has fled by air to Poland. Sweden placed him and the daughters on their most wanted list, and they've been detained in Poland where they are facing court rulings on their status. The polish court ruled yesterday that the Swedish social services violated the EU convention that says foster children must not be placed in a 'foreign cultural environment', and said the children should stay with their father while their refugee status is determined.
https://twitter.com/BartoszLewand20/status/1113397002711314434
The swedish social services sent an agent to the polish courts, who tried to break through the police cordon and was detained, while the Russians seem to be mostly sitting back with their Consulate General just watching.
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Apr 4 2019 05:03am
Quote (Goomshill @ 4 Apr 2019 11:55)
https://samnytt.se/socialtjansten-ville-tvangsplacera-tre-barn-hos-libanesisk-familj-familjen-flydde-till-polen-och-fick-stanna/
http://tass.com/society/1051821

brewing miniscandal between Sweden, Poland & Russia
A christian Russian couple moved to Sweden in 2017 with 3 young daughters. The wife fell ill and the family struggled to keep their jobs, and Swedish social services came and took away their daughters and put them into foster care on the basis that they did not have full employment- placing them in a fundamentalism muslim lebanese household. The father was predictably irate and took his daughters out of the foster home and has fled by air to Poland. Sweden placed him and the daughters on their most wanted list, and they've been detained in Poland where they are facing court rulings on their status. The polish court ruled yesterday that the Swedish social services violated the EU convention that says foster children must not be placed in a 'foreign cultural environment', and said the children should stay with their father while their refugee status is determined.
https://twitter.com/BartoszLewand20/status/1113397002711314434
The swedish social services sent an agent to the polish courts, who tried to break through the police cordon and was detained, while the Russians seem to be mostly sitting back with their Consulate General just watching.


This sounds like something out of Steven Bannon's fever dreams... but I have little doubt that it's true.
The sad state of Sweden in 2019...
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Apr 4 2019 05:20am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 4 2019 05:03am)
This sounds like something out of Steven Bannon's fever dreams... but I have little doubt that it's true.
The sad state of Sweden in 2019...


I'm just waiting to see if Swedish courts will rule that Polish courts are racist for calling a muslim household a 'foreign cultural environment'
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Apr 4 2019 10:58am
Another country failing to deport fugitives, assuming that another state's court isn't doing their job properly, which is the kind of assumption that should have no place in the EU, be it Sweden or Bulgaria. A country with a flawed justice system shouldn't be part of the EU... we either get rid of those that we believe are twisting the judiciary system, or we assume they follow the right procedures. Anything else just weakens the union.

Are the foster parents non-swedish citizens? What's the objective reasoning to declare the household foreign? Note the word objective... we need something legally tangible that can draw the line, so as to not leave this and other cases open to the subjective interpretation of judges.

Note that I have no particular opinion in this case due to the lack of information, but I do believe in 'in dubio, pro reo'... so the burden of providing objective evidence rests upon those accusing the Swedish court of violating EU regulations.
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Apr 4 2019 11:07am
Quote (zarkadon @ 4 Apr 2019 17:58)
Another country failing to deport fugitives, assuming that another state's court isn't doing their job properly, which is the kind of assumption that should have no place in the EU, be it Sweden or Bulgaria. A country with a flawed justice system shouldn't be part of the EU... we either get rid of those that we believe are twisting the judiciary system, or we assume they follow the right procedures. Anything else just weakens the union.

Are the foster parents non-swedish citizens? What's the objective reasoning to declare the household foreign? Note the word objective... we need something legally tangible that can draw the line, so as to not leave this and other cases open to the subjective interpretation of judges.

Note that I have no particular opinion in this case due to the lack of information, but I do believe in 'in dubio, pro reo'... so the burden of providing objective evidence rests upon those accusing the Swedish court of violating EU regulations.


expecting facts, objectivity, and nuance from bigoted EU haters...

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Apr 4 2019 11:35am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 4 2019 12:03pm)
This sounds like something out of Steven Bannon's fever dreams... but I have little doubt that it's true.
The sad state of Sweden in 2019...


this is why we're leaving mate #letsgowto #nodealisbetterthanabaddeal
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Apr 4 2019 11:41am
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this is why we're leaving


you're leaving because of the right wing spin of a single incident happening in different countries in 2019? sounds about right...

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Apr 4 2019 11:54am
Quote (fender @ Apr 4 2019 06:41pm)
you're leaving because of the right wing spin of a single incident happening in different countries in 2019? sounds about right...

https://eu-rope.ideasoneurope.eu/files/2016/07/Brexit-Bodge-630x630.png


No deal will actually benefit me in terms of domestic price levels and in my line of work regardless, so bring it on buddy...
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