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Jan 29 2020 11:13am
Quote (Goomshill @ 29 Jan 2020 17:41)
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kek


lol

reminds me of the aftermath of hurricane maria, when Trump was feuding with the governor of puerto rico:



Iirc, someone posted this pic on the_donald and it got a decent number of upvotes :rofl:

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Jan 29 2020 11:44am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 29 2020 09:40am)
on social/cultural topics like civil rights, gay rights, diversity and equality, and immigration in particular, the country was lurching to the left even during the bush years. government spending had also increased substantially under bush due to his wars.

also note that the political success of the tea party mostly materialized between 2010 and 2014, in a post-bailout and post-obamacare world after several years of a Democrat in the WH. it did not come to form immediately after Obama's inauguration while the memories of the bush years were still super fresh.


It basically did form immediately, but the political success of the tea party didn't materialize until it got Koch money. They spent a bonkers amount busing in protesters and hiring professional speakers.

The idea that the Tea Party was a response to the left's social success and the idea that in 2008 we had just gotten off a giant lurch to the left is ridiculous.
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Jan 29 2020 03:24pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jan 29 2020 09:40am)
That is not at all what moral foundation theory is about.

It divides morality into foundations of care / fairness / loyalty / authority / sanctity. Studies have demonstrated that liberals prioritize the first two, whereas conservatives apply all 5 to some degree. It's not surprising, then, that conservatives can understand liberal points on fairness and care whereas liberals struggle to understand conservative perspectives that include loyalty / authority / sanctity.


Conservatives will defer from one to the other, and don't necessarily care about a consistent foundation when doing so. When an authority says it's fine, then fairness gets moved back in importance, and when sanctity and authority are involved you might as well just ignore all the others. The reason liberals only use two of the five is because they seek a consistent system that doesn't require downplaying some elements in favor of others.
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Jan 29 2020 04:46pm
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Jan 29 2020 11:02pm


That's fucking nuts. Absolutely massive spikes in robberies and auto theft and a jump in burglary that seems small by comparison but would be big in a normal year unto itself.
Murder, rapes and shootings have sample sizes so small they jump around a lot each year (50% more shootings but 23% less dead = not statistically indicative). But holy hell there is just a gigantic crime wave shown by all the major trackers, particularly the offenses that are newly unpunished by jail.
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Jan 29 2020 11:06pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 29 2020 04:24pm)
a consistent system that doesn't require downplaying some elements in favor of others.


Sounds like something a Miss America contestant would say.
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Jan 30 2020 12:59am
Quote (Goomshill @ 30 Jan 2020 06:02)
https://i.imgur.com/mpgTXQW.jpg

That's fucking nuts. Absolutely massive spikes in robberies and auto theft and a jump in burglary that seems small by comparison but would be big in a normal year unto itself.
Murder, rapes and shootings have sample sizes so small they jump around a lot each year (50% more shootings but 23% less dead = not statistically indicative). But holy hell there is just a gigantic crime wave shown by all the major trackers, particularly the offenses that are newly unpunished by jail.


is that nationwide or only in particular places?

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Jan 30 2020 01:01pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 30 2020 12:59am)
is that nationwide or only in particular places?


that's in NYC
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Jan 30 2020 01:09pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 30 Jan 2020 20:01)
that's in NYC


who would have thought that letting certain crimes go unpunished would lead to an increase in these crimes?

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Jan 30 2020 02:31pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 30 2020 11:09am)
who would have thought that letting certain crimes go unpunished would lead to an increase in these crimes?

https://i.imgflip.com/32dbrf.jpg


I agree. Everyone complains about prisons being above capacity and their answer is to go soft on crime. I'm of the opinion that we should build more prisons. Double, triple, whatever it takes.
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