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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 5 Feb 2021 11:22)
Why are you so obsessed with single moms? What have they done to you that you hate them so much and blame them for everything that's going wrong?

seems more like shitposting than anything. single moms are hardly the biggest issue afflicting the world.

if anything a single male should love single moms. easy to date casually and one has an out if it gets trying.
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seems more like shitposting than anything. single moms are hardly the biggest issue afflicting the world.

if anything a single male should love single moms. easy to date casually and one has an out if it gets trying.


If you can stand the smell of sardines

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 4 2021 11:22pm)
Why are you so obsessed with single moms? What have they done to you that you hate them so much and blame them for everything that's going wrong?



Its the leading cause of child abuse, poverty, and mentall illness.

Maybe you should care more?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 4 2021 09:46pm)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/02/04/romney-child-benefit-stimulus/

In principle, yes, that's something I can get behind. I would need to wait until experts have gone through the details though, since I know too little about he inticacies of American tax code.

So, based on what I can gather from this article, Romney's proposal would be a step in the right direction philosophically, and would be a significant net improvement for poor families in practice. But it would be more of a consolidation of existing benefits and programs than pure additional spending. The funding would, in substantial parts, come from slushing existing child benefits and tax deductions.


I agree. When far-left Matt Bruenig and center-right think tanks are saying it's a net benefit, and Democrats are doing the typical "we can't cut any welfare program ever, even if it's in the name of implementing a better one overall", there's good reason to think Romney struck the right balance.

Senators Lee and Rubio(the populist pretender) came out against it: https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2021/2/rubio-lee-statement-on-child-tax-credit
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I agree. When far-left Matt Bruenig and center-right think tanks are saying it's a net benefit, and Democrats are doing the typical "we can't cut any welfare program ever, even if it's in the name of implementing a better one overall", there's good reason to think Romney struck the right balance.

Senators Lee and Rubio(the populist pretender) came out against it: https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2021/2/rubio-lee-statement-on-child-tax-credit


To the best of my knowledge, Mike Lee has always been very conservative on fiscal and economic issues, so I'm not surprised by his stance. Rubio, on the other hand, really baffles me. Does he seriously think that "our biggest concern right now should be to prevent poor families from getting lazy when we send them any money" will play well under the current circumstances? Heck, does he think that this attiude will ever play well with anyone but the Republican donor class and people from the upper 5% of the income distribution? For someone who's up for reelection in 2022, and probably has presidential ambitions in 2024, this positioning is completely moronic.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 5 2021 01:28pm)
To the best of my knowledge, Mike Lee has always been very conservative on fiscal and economic issues, so I'm not surprised by his stance. Rubio, on the other hand, really baffles me. Does he seriously think that "our biggest concern right now should be to prevent poor families from getting lazy when we send them any money" will play well under the current circumstances? Heck, does he think that this attiude will ever play well with anyone but the Republican donor class and people from the upper 5% of the income distribution? For someone who's up for reelection in 2022, and probably has presidential ambitions in 2024, this positioning is completely moronic.


It took Biden getting elected for us to be in agreement. :thumbsup:
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Quote (IceMage @ Feb 5 2021 12:49pm)
It took Biden getting elected for us to be in agreement. :thumbsup:


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If you can stand the smell of sardines




Its the leading cause of child abuse, poverty, and mentall illness.

Maybe you should care more?


The fix would be to raise better sons so they will be fathers when needed and not have so many deadbeat dads out there.

America has a buy your way out clause for male parenthood even, such enablement.
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The problem with the people pretending to be right-wing populists like Rubio and Hawley is that, if forced to choose between their anti-Democrat(or anti-Biden) stance and their new founded populism, they will always go with anti-Bidenism. The base is far more motivated by it.
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The problem with the people pretending to be right-wing populists like Rubio and Hawley is that, if forced to choose between their anti-Democrat(or anti-Biden) stance and their new founded populism, they will always go with anti-Bidenism. The base is far more motivated by it.


Why do you refer to Rubio as a populist? Maybe I'm wrong, but to the best of my knowledge, he hasnt really been a populist for most of his career. He started out as a child of the tea party wave, flirted with Romney/Ryan-esque fiscal conservatism for a bit, but then just was an ideologically amorphous candidate during the 2016 primary. His rationale was "I can be whatever you want me to be, but anyway, I'm young, slick, latino and appealing to the beltway press". He was almost comically out of his depth. Since 2016, he has basically tried to pander to the Trump crowd whenever his views happened to align with Trump's, and tried to emulate his tone. Policy-wise, he staked out some pretty hawkish foreign policy views, but otherwise largely remained a blank slate.

Hawley imho had a much more well-defined pitch, he was very clearly positioning himself as the thought-leader of a new, right-wing populist direction of the GOP. His calculus very clearly was that he would be the answer to the question of how "Trumpism without Trump" could look like. By contrast, I still have no fucking idea what Rubio's calculus is, or will be in 2022/2024.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 5 2021 02:51pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 4 2021 11:22pm)
Why are you so obsessed with single moms? What have they done to you that you hate them so much and blame them for everything that's going wrong?


Maybe he dated one 🤔
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