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Jan 7 2022 01:41am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 6 2022 11:12pm)
You assumed my position on the surveilance state because you see me as a Democrat. I'm vehemently against the surveilance state and I think Republicans can be entirely dismissed as a legitimate opposition party for not impeaching Obama and destroying the NSA when it came to light to the public.

I think you need to consume more information about economic systems, because you're in love with the idea of a free market capitalism, without realizing the logical consequence is the neoliberal hellscape we currently live in. There is a whole world between communism and corporate capitalism. If you want to refine your ability to have these conversations I think you should genuinely consume more information on the kinds of ideas you don't even know exist.


So your reaction to yet another genuine olive branch is, basically "you're too dumb to talk to me." Charming. My natural inclination is *not* to be adversarial if I don't have to. As far as you, being implicit that other people are dumber than you - it's usually not true, and it makes you look like a dick. Free lesson for the day. You're no better than anyone here, bud, and I have a feeling it'll take a while for you to learn that the hard way. I do understand that here on PARD, everyone calls everyone an idiot all the time, but you do it with cold, absolute certainty. That's worse than trolling because you believe yourself to be above most other people, and you believe it to your core. Do you conduct yourself that way in real life?

On topic, you are assuming a lot of things when I say "capitalism". When I say it, I mean the government isn't a crushing burden on every day people with over taxation and over regulation. It's a way of describing a society and a social contract in how people do business and pay taxes. Honest contracts that are enforceable. Private property. The concept of private property being fiercely protected. The ability for the everyman to have recourse in the system, both via the legal system, and via elected representation. The antithesis of Communism, in which you own nothing, no one in power is beholden to you in any way, and a government official is always around the corner making sure every breath you take is in compliance. I'm assuming for your sake the latter is not what you want, so you should want capitalism on a small scale and a strong legal foundation to protect it.

Again, when you say "free market capitalism", I'm quite sure you're talking about the globalization and corporatism aspects. Corporations, an unholy marriage between business and government, don't need to exist. Hardly anyone here is explicitly pro-corporation anymore, at least not on purpose.
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Jan 7 2022 01:53am
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So your reaction to yet another genuine olive branch is, basically "you're too dumb to talk to me." Charming. My natural inclination is *not* to be adversarial if I don't have to.


"Hey, you should learn more about this subject"

is not the same as

"you're dumb, don't talk to me"

It's actually an invitation to learn more so we can have a productive dialogue.
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Jan 7 2022 02:44am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 6 2022 11:53pm)
"Hey, you should learn more about this subject"

is not the same as

"you're dumb, don't talk to me"

It's actually an invitation to learn more so we can have a productive dialogue.


Oh puh-leeze.

I have spoken in depth about what I believe. You are not in a position to determine anyone's level of education, nor is anyone obligated to meet your "criteria". Get over yourself.
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Jan 7 2022 03:24am
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Oh puh-leeze.

I have spoken in depth about what I believe. You are not in a position to determine anyone's level of education, nor is anyone obligated to meet your "criteria". Get over yourself.


If you aren't willing to learn the basics of what you're talking about you aren't worth engaging seriously, olive branch or not.

You think the wolrld can be separated into free market corporate capitalism and communism, and everything in between just doesn't exist. Nuff said.
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Jan 7 2022 06:25am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 7 Jan 2022 01:04)
There's a part where he goes on a whole diatribe aboutr how the Clinton administration sold the working class down the river for corporate interests. He's no fan of Democrats and neither am I :)


Who are you a fan of then?
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Jan 7 2022 08:40am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 3 2022 10:16am)
I pay a higher percentage of my wage and a higher percent of my disposable income.

The rich are leaches. Nobody can ever produce a billion dollars of value in their lives.



Typical troglodyte from you
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Jan 7 2022 08:48am
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Who are you a fan of then?


You dont really see politicians talk like this anymore
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Jan 7 2022 09:04am
Quote (duffman316 @ 7 Jan 2022 09:48)
You dont really see politicians talk like this anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRr60nmDyu4


Those words flew into the gray haired muppets head, jumbled around, and turned into NAFTA. LOL
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Jan 7 2022 09:13am
Quote (crackersj @ Jan 7 2022 09:04am)
Those words flew into the gray haired muppets head, jumbled around, and turned into NAFTA. LOL


No.
NAFTA was planned and coming despite who was president.
Perot was there to distract.
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Jan 7 2022 09:33am
Thank god for America and the First Amendment. Everything else is inconsequential.
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