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Sep 8 2021 07:17pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 8 2021 06:14pm)
Not sure what you are saying. So they could be argued in a way that they protect others in a sense, that means we should mandate them?

Please clarify your position.


I think people will have to make their own healthcare decisions, and that society at-large will have to make decisions that protect the health of society too, including but not limited to making it so that folks who are not vaccinated do not get access to spaces where their healthcare choices have the potentially to impact others.
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Sep 8 2021 07:18pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 8 2021 06:16pm)
The logic train must have missed your stop.

If you are vaccinated, you can still spread covid, therefore you being vaccinated does not protect others, does not prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed, and does not prevent those who cannot vaccinate from being in danger.

Understand?


I'm sorry, I'm too stupid to understand and am unsure which stop to go to. Can you explain your point in more simplistic terms?
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Sep 8 2021 07:19pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ 8 Sep 2021 18:18)
I'm sorry, I'm too stupid to understand and am unsure which stop to go to. Can you explain your point in more simplistic terms?


I cannot. If you do not understand simple English, I recommend ESL classes.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 8 2021 06:19pm)
I cannot. If you do not understand simple English, I recommend ESL classes.


What are "ESL" classes?
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Sep 8 2021 07:20pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Sep 8 2021 06:17pm)
I think people will have to make their own healthcare decisions, and that society at-large will have to make decisions that protect the health of society too, including but not limited to making it so that folks who are not vaccinated do not get access to spaces where their healthcare choices have the potentially to impact others.


Let me try and parse your crypto-speak: you are essentially saying, lol no we won't make you take the vaccines (cause we know it would cause too much backlash) but we will make sure that so many services will become unavailable to you, and it will cause your quality of life to plummet so much, that you will finally be willing to take the vaccines.

I see right through you, my lefty friend. The above is precisely what our government here is doing.
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What are "ESL" classes?


:rolleyes:
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Sep 8 2021 07:21pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Sep 8 2021 06:19pm)
What are "ESL" classes?


English as second language. They are classes intended for new immigrants and general non-speakers of English. I took them when I first came here.
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Sep 8 2021 07:22pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 8 2021 06:20pm)
Let me try and parse your crypto-speak: you are essentially saying, lol no we won't make you take the vaccines (cause we know it would cause too much backlash) but we will make sure that so many services will become unavailable to you, and it will cause your quality of life to plummet so much, that you will finally be willing to take the vaccines.

I see right through you, my lefty friend. The above is precisely what our government here is doing.


There's nothing cryptic about what I'm saying, because I believe not forcing people to be vaccinated while also restricting services to protect society's health at-large is a just position.
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Sep 8 2021 07:23pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 8 2021 06:21pm)
English as second language. They are classes intended for new immigrants and general non-speakers of English. I took them when I first came here.


Thank you for the clarification. English is the only language I speak, so I don't think an "ESL" class would make sense, right? It's my first and only language. If I were to try and learn a second language, I would probably learn American Sign Language.
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Sep 8 2021 07:24pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 8 2021 06:16pm)
The logic train must have missed your stop.

If you are vaccinated, you can still spread covid, therefore you being vaccinated does not protect others, does not prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed, and does not prevent those who cannot vaccinate from being in danger.

Understand?


you are making these things sound absolute, which literally nobody believes they are. it's about reducing risk. you get that, right?

you are doing the same thing msnbc and cnn do in their reporting

This post was edited by proccy on Sep 8 2021 07:25pm
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