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Feb 17 2021 12:27am
The "double down and don't see Grandma" rhetoric is tone deaf and self-defeating. Political capital has been completely spent.
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Feb 17 2021 12:28am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 16 2021 10:18pm)
Wrong again! I've been in a position of authority to hire and fire people, and haven't lived with my mother since I was 1 year old. And am married and live with my wife and pay all our bills. I have no college debt, I worked full time and paid for the degree I earned. What's your excuse?

Let's go with the personal attacks now that you've been called out for not only being "not an authority" regarding covid, but not even capable of reading a report without attempting to add a narrative that is blatantly false to it.

Next you'll start on some nonsensical rant about how the average age of covid-related death being 82 while the average lifespan is 78 is "misleading" right? Or try to talk yet again about how covid's "killing the kids" when nope.

You're a hack. A shill. You talk about following the science, and do the complete opposite.


he will change around any thing you say. accused me of not knowing the difference between a virus and a bacteria. you cant stop him either he just runs with it
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Feb 17 2021 12:31am
Quote (TiStuff @ 16 Feb 2021 22:28)
he will change around any thing you say.


That's not his MO. He'll go on and on incessantly about how he's right, then after a while, drop the subject entirely. Then, 6 months from now, when we're still under lockdowns and mandates, he'll come out and suddenly start championing the exact same position I am, while pretending it's the position he's always held.

Just as he flipped on masks, just as he won't touch anything regarding Nursing Home deaths, just as he now won't touch the "But not all muslims!" topic after the Uyghur enslavement in China. He only goes after politically expedient topics that won't harm his garbage "reputation" among the progressive left.
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Feb 17 2021 12:42am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 17 2021 12:31am)
That's not his MO. He'll go on and on incessantly about how he's right, then after a while, drop the subject entirely. Then, 6 months from now, when we're still under lockdowns and mandates, he'll come out and suddenly start championing the exact same position I am, while pretending it's the position he's always held.

Just as he flipped on masks, just as he won't touch anything regarding Nursing Home deaths, just as he now won't touch the "But not all muslims!" topic after the Uyghur enslavement in China. He only goes after politically expedient topics that won't harm his garbage "reputation" among the progressive left.


Lol wow you really are just a bold face liar.
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Feb 17 2021 12:48am
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Lol wow you really are just a bold face liar.


Oh? Where's the lie? Point me to the topic where you're encouraging harsh trade sanctions against China and boycotting of any company that deals with China due to their enslavement of the Uyghurs. Point me at your outraged posts over Cuomo's murder of ten to fifteen thousand nursing home patients.

Even when it became clear that the WHO/CDC guidance that "masks weren't needed" was bullshit, you defended that. Then a month later it was, "Well, medical facilities needed them, I wasn't wrong, I was just defending the hospitals!" Really? So people's ability to protect themselves and the people around them isn't important until... Suddenly it is?

You've never remained consistent about any of this. You jump to conclusions when the data isn't clear, then proceed to claim you never held positions you argued incessantly. It's how you operate, and have operated for years. It's part of why I can still civilly discuss things with you most of the time. While you'll never admit to being wrong, you will change your position. Just a question of when.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 17 2021 12:50am
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Feb 17 2021 12:48am
Quote (bogie160 @ 17 Feb 2021 13:27)
The "double down and don't see Grandma" rhetoric is tone deaf and self-defeating. Political capital has been completely spent.

one would be lucky if they even could see Grandma with totalitarian scum like Cuomo sending them to death in NY
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Feb 17 2021 10:04am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 17 2021 12:48am)
Oh? Where's the lie? Point me to the topic where you're encouraging harsh trade sanctions against China and boycotting of any company that deals with China due to their enslavement of the Uyghurs. Point me at your outraged posts over Cuomo's murder of ten to fifteen thousand nursing home patients.

Even when it became clear that the WHO/CDC guidance that "masks weren't needed" was bullshit, you defended that. Then a month later it was, "Well, medical facilities needed them, I wasn't wrong, I was just defending the hospitals!" Really? So people's ability to protect themselves and the people around them isn't important until... Suddenly it is?

You've never remained consistent about any of this. You jump to conclusions when the data isn't clear, then proceed to claim you never held positions you argued incessantly. It's how you operate, and have operated for years. It's part of why I can still civilly discuss things with you most of the time. While you'll never admit to being wrong, you will change your position. Just a question of when.


I never said or defended "masks not being needed". (Maybe I did like in February when we hadn't identified any cases in the U.S.?) I specifically said don't buy surgical masks because medical workers need them. I was never against the public using cloth masks, which are far more sustainable for mass deployment. If everybody bought surgical masks all at once then nobody would have any after about a week. You are lying about my position because you know you don't have an argument.

I never said that what Cuomo did was right, I pointed out that nobody has given an alternative. This remains true to this day. People are saying "Cuomo shouldn't have sent them back to nursing homes" but never say where he should have sent them. Keeping them in the hospital was not an option as they were already over 100% capacity.

I've been totally consistent on all of this lol. You're the one claiming he keeps up with CDC guidelines then actively contradicts them and then when it's pointed out that he is actively contradicting his own source changes the subject to avoid having to admit anything. I'll gladly discuss any of these when you aren't acting like a 14 year old.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 17 2021 10:14am
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Feb 17 2021 10:18am
Why do Qidiots think masks are condoms where wearing 2 makes it less effective, but also think that it restricts breathing, but also think that the virus goes right through, but CO2 particles are trapped?

Why?
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Feb 17 2021 10:24am
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 17 2021 08:18am)
Why do Qidiots think masks are condoms where wearing 2 makes it less effective, but also think that it restricts breathing, but also think that the virus goes right through, but CO2 particles are trapped?

Why?


its a great critical thinking topic..
partials and air can come in..
BuT tHey Cant EScapE and yoU get Co2 PoIsoing......
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Feb 17 2021 10:25am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Feb 17 2021 10:24am)
its a great critical thinking topic..
partials and air can come in..
BuT tHey Cant EScapE and yoU get Co2 PoIsoing......


Likely a catch and release border hoax where liberal masks let the virus right back out but imprison oxygen patriots for "crimes" like violently storming the capital.
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