that's not how pale pasty privileged lefty revolutionaries think

don't forgot - all their idols pillaged and overthrew the rich and elite and government in the name of revolution and social equality! they forgot or ignore the part where said idols took it for themselves, leaving a wake of carnage and desolation in their wake

USSR and all other Socialist Republics
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
People's Republic of China
Khmer Rouge
Democratic Republic of Vietnam
Republic of Cuba
Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela

Warren split the far left in super Tuesday ensuring that the only viable candidate on their side was not similar to her or her constituents. She is in Tulsi Gabbard territory when it comes to credibility.

She lied about her ethnicity, about her kids going to public school, about Bernie Sanders being a sexist very desperately. She stayed in the race on super Tuesday to ensure a Biden victory to be a good party member and to angle for a cabinet position. This is about as cynical as you can get.

how dare she not get out of the way for the white man.

honestly tho, Warren once the race got down to 3 had an outside chance pre-super tuesday if she could get some delegates and stick in a decent 3rd place. didnt go that way, and days later she was out.

like consider if she won Mass and then picked up 100 more delegates in other states. boom, we'd be talking about a 3 way race. splitting the progressive vote and biden winning big because of it is hindsight. as is only 15% of millennials voting. could have gone a lot different.

Indeed. Biden is a cookie cutter liberal. Throughout his 40 year long career in the Senate, he was never known as a moderate, he was always considered a liberal.

Since 2015, the Democratic party has massively shifted to the left. Only this recent and substantial leftward shift makes Biden look like a very moderate. Relative to the rest of the field, he's the least leftist candidate. But looking at actual policy, he's not any less liberal than Hillary was in 2016, and decidedly to the left of where Obama was in 2008.

Here's a nice article which compares the candidates' positions on various high-profile issues with each other, and with Obama's 08 platform:
https://www.vox.com/2019/12/20/21026212/2020-democratic-primary-joe-biden-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-barack-obama

tldr:


This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 17 2020 01:07pm

its funny that voting records from 40 years ago are what's being used to label him as "establishment" when 40 years ago they were wildly popular among liberals.

is biden establishment compared to bernie, of course. but he's also a people pleaser who tries to follow the liberal party in whatever they want in real time. a watered down version to be sure, but progressive asks of the far left arent as popular as bernie bros want to think. people want slow change, they dont want societal upset. especially in the modern climate of hysteria. biden isnt the candidate people want, but he does represent the platform that's most popular, because its the least scary. shocker shocker, people dont want massive sweeping change with unknown consequences.

"gee wouldnt it be nice if we had universal healthcare to combat corona". i mean sure, but would combating corona and also shifting over to a M4A model immediately make corona better? no of course not, it would make it worse.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Mar 17 2020 01:16pm

that's just ridiculous. warren had some great ideas and plans, as did yang, and also tulsi. trying to characterise the rejection of a corporate puppet as some crazy cult of personality is just another dishonest and shitty way to deflect from the substance of the criticism leveled against biden. his record speaks for itself.

what it comes down to is that you guys can put your labels on, and your hopes into biden all you want. at the end of the day, he is just the representative of his donors, and will do their bidding. we've seen this movie so often now, only a fool would assume it's going to end differently this time around.



you've got it wrong. it's looking at his RECORD rather than listening to his empty PROMISES.



that's actually your least insane 'argument' for biden so far...

This post was edited by fender on Mar 17 2020 02:00pm

Quick, off the top of your head, what is Biden's plan for climate change? It's rated one of the highest by environmental groups but you probably didn't know that because you'd rather focus on empty rhetoric. At the end of the day, Biden is going to get the nomination and if he manages to beat Trump, America will be BETTER OFF than it was before. Biden has a record of moving America in the right direction and actually helping people. To quote Bernie Sanders, "When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car." You really need to check your privilege!

can it, heinrich. go worry about merkel running for another term what would it be 5 in a row now as chancellor lmfao, pathetic..

e: reported, btw

This post was edited by excellence on Mar 17 2020 03:18pm

Looking at his record without context is foolish. For decades, Biden has been a staunch liberal relative to his peers. Only the leftward march at breakneck pace that the Democratic party saw over the last couple of years has left him behind and is making him seem like a moderate. And still, he's incorporating ideas from the rivals to his left, he still keeps accomodating to them. There is zero reason to think that he would cease to move in lockstep with the ideological mainstream of his party once elected. And this ideological center of gravity within the party has already been successfully dragged to the left by the progressives/Bernie's people.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 17 2020 04:33pm

Biden is winning Florida by nearly 40 points with 82% reporting. This thing is over.

I was thinking Sanders could see a relatively minor boost if more elderly people (disproportionately Biden supporters) sat out of the polls today, but Biden is still demolishing Sanders regardless.