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Mar 21 2016 05:58pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 21 2016 04:56pm)
...I'm talking about you and your obvious hypocrisy...trying to justify why you won't do it because it can't be done for the entire population is the very height of moral cowardice .


How can I do it? I don't have a garden nor do I live somewhere where I can make one.
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Mar 21 2016 06:00pm
Quote (Nathan @ Mar 21 2016 07:58pm)
How can I do it? I don't have a garden nor do I live somewhere where I can make one.


...that's for you to figure out .
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Quote (Scaly @ Mar 21 2016 05:37pm)
It's the land clearance dude. Per calorie of greens you're looking at huge amounts of land clearance, pesticides etc...

Besides - nobody lives purely off greens. You'd collapse.

Fish is the way forward bro.


It requires far more land to feed livestock than to raise greens. It also requires pesticides.
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Mar 21 2016 06:02pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 21 2016 05:00pm)
...that's for you to figure out .


Well if it's not really viable than I'm not going to do anything. By merely going from buying one set of things at the grocery store to the other, the difference in suffering is an order of magnitude, and that doesn't involve any additional obligations or costs.
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Mar 21 2016 06:03pm
Quote (Nathan @ Mar 21 2016 06:58pm)
How can I do it? I don't have a garden nor do I live somewhere where I can make one.


I suppose we can compare this to an environmentalist dude who works in DC but lives 2 hours away. He can sacrifice livelihood to live biking distance away from work or he can be part of the problem and eat vegetables.

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If you're not actively donating money to buy malaria nets in Africa (etc.) you're effectively a murderer, and thus you can't morally oppose murder.
Only the last part of the sentence is not true.
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Mar 21 2016 06:11pm
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If you're not actively donating money to buy malaria nets in Africa (etc.) you're effectively a murderer, and thus you can't morally oppose murder.
Only the last part of the sentence is not true.


Not a murderer, but equally responsible for the end of a life.

I like your effective altruistic example :thumbsup:
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Mar 21 2016 06:22pm
The most moral thing is for everyone to work for the good of the world, and actual work i.e. socially productive labor, technological innovation, or scientific investigation, and not moving money around, and use ("own") no more than you need. Anything less is not only the suffering of others but the eventual suffering of yourself.
And no part of that is untrue. Communism will eventually prevail.
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Mar 23 2016 03:53pm
In case anyone needs to lose a boner.

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I actually did think she was hiding fruit snacks under her clothes.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/dressed-could-see-belly-fat-212358624.html
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Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 23 2016 03:53pm)
In case anyone needs to lose a boner.

Best from the comments section:



https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/dressed-could-see-belly-fat-212358624.html


That was legitimately disgusting. What is with fatties wearing striped dresses?

No fat thread should go without this gem, it had tumblr in a rage, the comment section too around the first year it was posted.

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