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Apr 22 2013 09:03am
Quote (dajusta @ 22 Apr 2013 14:41)
Nope absolutely not.  The KJV was the very first English version of the Bible.  Textual criticism wasn't really around until the Enlightenment period when people saw textual criticism as a need.


they incorporated the best known versions available which while not a rigorous textual criticism was the best available to them
but if you don't want that to be confused with the definitely more critical approach commenced later, i'll accept that
btw, the kjv was NOT the very first english version
and you forgot to answer the first question from my post - why not?
plus let me ask you another question:
how did the faith people obtained from the kjv differ from the faith obtained from newer translations?
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Apr 22 2013 09:20am
I can claim that the bible is restored to its original form (or near 99%) because of the other manuscripts that we have found on the text. There is an accuracy that is unprecedented among ancient writings and has a theological structure that is not contradicting in any shape or form.

The faith obtained with the kjv is based on their worldview of accepting scripture without question and complete reliance on translators. Being in the information age now, people understand the responsibility involved in determining accuracy.

/e no matter what leads them to their faith, they still had faith. it's a different approach to faith.

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Apr 22 2013 09:29am
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I can claim that the bible is restored to its original form (or near 99%) no you can't, the best you can claim is that it is as accurate as is currently possible
because of the other manuscripts that we have found on the text. and more could be found even whole sections especially of the old testament
There is an accuracy that is unprecedented among ancient writings also wrong, there are some clay tablet documents which are originals and don't forget egyptian texts written on inside walls (just examples)
and has a theological structure that is not contradicting in any shape or form.
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just wondering what you mean with 'theological structure'
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Apr 22 2013 09:34am
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just wondering what you mean with 'theological structure'


It's message, down to the person of Christ. Reading the Bible in its entirety only points to the coming, the dying, the resurrection and salvation of Christ.

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Apr 22 2013 09:36am
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It's message, down to the person of Christ.  Reading the Bible in its entirety only points to the coming, the dying, the resurrection and salvation of Christ.


okay, not arguing with you on whichever method you use to justify your faith
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Apr 22 2013 09:39am
...many scholars believe that 97% of the Bible is as close to the original writings as possible and that up to 3% is most likely additions through what is called marginalization , the result of transcribers adding their own thoughts and opinions in the margins of notes and future transcribers erroneously including them in the handwritten copies .
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Apr 22 2013 11:43pm
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...I could not possibly care any less about your silly copy'paste walls of text kid .


That's because you have no answers in the first place - lol

REMINDER:

You OWN SCHOLARS say that your silly book is a man-made piece of crappy text that has very little to do with God

And you will NEVER be able to refute the truth with your conjectures

Leave Christianity NOW
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Apr 22 2013 11:44pm
Quote (poulgaragr @ Apr 23 2013 01:43am)
Leave Christianity NOW


and Join the athiests or buddhists, their cool too.

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Apr 22 2013 11:48pm
Quote (dajusta @ Apr 22 2013 12:51am)
If you knew anything from what you cited, it's explaining why the bible has been carefully restored to its original form, a process called textual criticism.


vs.

Sometimes it is evident that the text has suffered in transmission, but none of the versions provides a satisfactory restoration.

Next time, READ my posts before posting your senseless "arguments" (which are a total joke as you also contradict yourself - lol)

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Apr 22 2013 11:49pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 22 2013 03:39pm)
...many scholars believe that 97% of the Bible is as close to the original writings as possible and that up to 3% is most likely additions through what is called marginalization , the result of transcribers adding their own thoughts and opinions in the margins of notes and future transcribers erroneously including them in the handwritten copies .


yup.... and yet you give ZERO evidence - :rofl:
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