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Dec 23 2023 02:31pm
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Started a civil war against the confederates who were all democrats and all continued to be democrats. There was no big change. There was less than ten Dixiecrats that changed side. That’s not a great switch as the democrats of today like to promote. Democrats have always been on the wrong side of history.


Were they conservative or liberal?
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Dec 23 2023 02:33pm
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When that person tried to do an insurrection it is not only ethical, it would be a dereliction of duty to do anything else.


What insurrection? The summer of love or the free Palestine insurrection that shut down official businesses, burned down building’s on White House property and put capital police in the hospital.


Or were them lawful protests. Oh and yes people were also armed. So you can’t wiggle your way out of that either.
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Dec 23 2023 02:37pm
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Were they conservative or liberal?


Republicans are conservative and fought against the liberal democrats who were slave holders.


Abe Lincoln was a conservative that began in the Whig party and then became a member of the Republican Party.

Try again?
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Dec 23 2023 02:38pm
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What insurrection? The summer of love or the free Palestine insurrection that shut down official businesses, burned down building’s on White House property and put capital police in the hospital.


Or were them lawful protests. Oh and yes people were also armed. So you can’t wiggle your way out of that either.


What election certification did those events stop? Did they leave directly from a Biden rally on bidens orders?

No?

Oh man. Guess it wasn't an insurrection them.

Meanwhile Jan 6th left directly from trumps rally on his order to disrupt certification of an election, Trumps tried to join them, and when he wasn't allowed tried to call and pressure senators to object.
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Dec 23 2023 02:39pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 23 2023 10:46am)
Biden being fine with a court following the constitution is not insurrection. It is literally the opposite.


Trump was president of the united states and had a constitutionally mandated duty to take care that laws be faithfully executed, and that includes ensuring the integrity of the election process.
Trump, like Biden, was just being fine with people following the constitution, and not fine with them 'not following the constitution'.
This is of course, completely arbitrary and lacking any form of check or balance, because that's the point. No due process, no checks and balances.

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This is the level of dishonesty you have to resort to to even pretend it's the same.


The only level of dishonesty required is to embrace what Democrats have here, the concept that you can disenfranchise half the country and strip citizens of their constitutionally guaranteed rights without due process, without any fact in law, from a court seizing jurisdiction that clearly does not belong to it.
As long as you the process is completely devoid of any sort of grounding or constraint, it can do anything it bloody well pleases.

Republicans have no more and no less justification for stripping Biden from the ballot than the left does with Trump. As I remind you, Trump is being judged by a court for his actions as president, without due process. That court is violating the separation of powers by interfering in the decision making process and constitutionally mandated prerogative of the executive to see laws executed, and its violating the 5th amendment by stripping rights with no due process, and probably shredding the rest of the constitution in every way short of quartering soldiers in Mar-a-Lago because they just forgot the 3rd exists. Republicans can make all the exact same claims against Biden on the same basis. Biden, as president and as vice president, gave aid and comfort to our enemies, supported insurrectionists, committed high crimes and misdemeanors, whatever justification you want to drum up no matter how baseless or unproven. Because proof isn't necessary. No burden of proof, no due process, no presumption of innocence, no free and fair elections. Biden must be stripped from the ballot because I said so, and I'm unilaterally usurping that power

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Republicans are conservative and fought against the liberal democrats who were slave holders.

Abe Lincoln was a conservative that began in the Whig party and then became a member of the Republican Party.

Try again?


:rofl:

Oh man I've read some retarded claims on here but the south being liberal slave holders might be the worst.
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Dec 23 2023 02:41pm
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Trump was president of the united states and had a constitutionally mandated duty to take care that laws be faithfully executed, and that includes ensuring the integrity of the election process.


He should have probably listened to EVERYBODY in his administration then and the 80 court cases and the recounts that confirmed it was.

We know for a fact he didn't give a shit about election integrity as evidenced by the fact after every issue was adjudicated he had a violent mob storm the capital.
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Dec 23 2023 02:42pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 23 2023 01:38pm)
What election certification did those events stop? Did they leave directly from a Biden rally on bidens orders?

No?

Oh man. Guess it wasn't an insurrection them.

Meanwhile Jan 6th left directly from trumps rally on his order to disrupt certification of an election, Trumps tried to join them, and when he wasn't allowed tried to call and pressure senators to object.


Being ordered to peaceful protest and let your voices be heard isn’t the order of an insurrection Jesus Christ.
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Dec 23 2023 02:48pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 23 2023 02:41pm)
He should have probably listened to EVERYBODY in his administration then and the 80 court cases and the recounts that confirmed it was.

We know for a fact he didn't give a shit about election integrity as evidenced by the fact after every issue was adjudicated he had a violent mob storm the capital.


Sorry Thor but whether you like it or not, Donald Trump was elected president of the united states in the 2016 election and the duty to see laws be faithfully executed was then granted solely to him, the unitary executive. Not to his administration, not to career bureaucrats who served at his pleasure. Supreme executive power derived from a mandate from the masses, and that plenary power rests with him. No court has jurisdiction over a president's power to audit and scrutinize the law for his deliberative purposes. If you disagreed with his priorities and findings, then too bad. There is a constitutionally prescribed relief for a president you lack confidence in, and last I checked Democrats never had the votes for impeachment.

I may personally think that Joe Biden falling asleep at the wheel and letting Afghanistan implode after decades of war like a fart in the wind amounted to obscene dereliction of duty and high negligence. But guess what? The people voted for him, they got what they voted for. There's no court that has jurisdiction to declare Biden an enemy of the people and insurrectionist and big pee pee poo poo head and strip him from the ballot because of it. But that's what this court did, they usurped that authority and without any process or precedent or proof got to simply label Trump a big pee pee poo poo head.
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Dec 23 2023 02:49pm
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:rofl:

Oh man I've read some retarded claims on here but the south being liberal slave holders might be the worst.




Gotcha little sheep.






“During the 19th century the party supported or tolerated slavery, and it opposed civil rights reforms after the American Civil War in order to retain the support of Southern voters. By the mid-20th century it had undergone a dramatic ideological realignment and reinvented itself as a party supporting organized labour, the civil rights of minorities, and progressive reform”






So the democrats are nothing, but crooks by admittance and our the enemy of the people. Because they either had liberal ideology to begin with or they were comfortable lying to the brainwashed sheep… are you a sheep Thor?

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