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Apr 7 2020 02:56pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 7 2020 01:34pm)
The fuck if it won't. Getting on the 1MC and shit-talking the captain that was just removed from command creates a huge mistrust of the chain of command within the ranks. He effectively lost the trust of the entire Navy due to his handling of that situation. That's a MASSIVE skip-level. You have the CAG (the Captain's immediate boss) do that. Not the acting SecNav.


Dude, what the fuck do you know? Just go to a bar and ask any old veteran and they'll tell you: Loose lips sink ships!!!
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Apr 7 2020 02:58pm
Quote (fender @ 7 Apr 2020 20:00)
i'm wondering, why is trump pushing that chloroquine drug so hard, despite the potential drawbacks (side effects without any positive impact, unavailability for those who actually need it, idiots drinking fish tank cleaner...) of doing so?

does it benefit him financially, or is it just an ego thing? really strange imo...




Quote (Thor123422 @ 7 Apr 2020 20:05)
It was basically an attempt at saying everything's fine since we have a treatment, don't worry, everything's fine, don't drop my approval ratings, everything's fine.

He has basically zero scientific knowledge so trying to tell him how drugs work or what the approval process is would be a non-starter. He was just grasping at anything to make himself feel better.




France has officially allowed the use of chloroquine:
https://www.thelocal.fr/20200324/france-allows-chloroquine-to-be-given-to-gravest-coronavirus-cases
https://www.france24.com/en/video/20200327-france-sanctions-use-of-chloroquine-for-certain-patients-with-coronavirus

Afaik, other states have since followed suit and also sanctioned its use.
Note that France gave it the green light right around the time Trump started really pushing this drug during his daily press conferences. And during the time he started casually mentioning its name, the French health minister was also starting to talk about it.


So whatever you think about Trump's approach, his promotion of this drug didnt come entirely out of the blue. I have to agree, however, that he was overpushing it, probably in the silly hope that this drug turns out to be a golden bullet against coronavirus. Which it most certainly isnt.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 7 2020 02:58pm
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Apr 7 2020 02:59pm
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Apr 7 2020 02:59pm
Quote (thundercock @ Apr 7 2020 03:56pm)
Dude, what the fuck do you know? Just go to a bar and ask any old veteran and they'll tell you: Loose lips sink ships!!!


Like myself, he is a Navy veteran.
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Apr 7 2020 03:00pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 7 2020 03:55pm)
Oh he did not, did he?


for about 15 mins straight. LOL
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Apr 7 2020 03:01pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 7 2020 01:59pm)
Like myself, he is a Navy veteran.


Then you two are either too naive or too stupid to understand that Ghot knows what he's talking about.
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Apr 7 2020 03:03pm
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/coronavirus-sailor-aircraft-carrier-navy-nimitz-173210

OMG, can you imagine what will happen if our enemies find out about this?! HOLY SHIT!!
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Apr 7 2020 03:06pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 7 Apr 2020 22:52)
the Trump personality of cult and military have had a lot of interesting interactions since he announced his candidacy. Generals have a short shelf life in that Admin. and yet lose zero credibility once they leave. yet ex-military still polls very strong towards the Trump electorate. it's almost like they dont blame generals for how bad it is in that whitehouse but still love Trump. its an odd one to work out, likely can just be chalked up to strong cognitive dissonance.


Perhaps its a generational divide? I'm by no means an expert on the inner workings of the US military - but from the outside, it to me feels as follows:

- until roughly 2000, the military was overwhelmingly conservative and overwhelmingly backed Republicans.
- somewhere between 2000 and 2010, this trend was broken among younger soldiers. nowadays, the military still clearly leans conservative, but over the last 10-20 years, the younger cohorts of the military have gotten more liberal and Democratic leaning (relative to their prior deep-red orientation) at a very rapid pace. among younger soldiers, I would guesstimate the partisan divide at something like 40:60 Dem:Rep, which is a huge shift from the situation just 2 decades earlier.

I might be talking nonsense here, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's an interesting idea which would explain a lot of the observed dynamics.
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Apr 7 2020 03:07pm
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Apr 7 2020 03:13pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 7 2020 05:06pm)
Perhaps its a generational divide? I'm by no means an expert on the inner workings of the US military - but from the outside, it to me feels as follows:

- until roughly 2000, the military was overwhelmingly conservative and overwhelmingly backed Republicans.
- somewhere between 2000 and 2010, this trend was broken among younger soldiers. nowadays, the military still clearly leans conservative, but over the last 10-20 years, the younger cohorts of the military have gotten more liberal and Democratic leaning (relative to their prior deep-red orientation) at a very rapid pace. among younger soldiers, I would guesstimate the partisan divide at something like 40:60 Dem:Rep, which is a huge shift from the situation just 2 decades earlier.

I might be talking nonsense here, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's an interesting idea which would explain a lot of the observed dynamics.



Yeah. It was another present from Obama. The soyboi brigades. Just what we need in our fighting forces. :/














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