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May 18 2016 02:34pm
Quote (dro94 @ May 18 2016 11:25am)
Clinton isn't left wing, some level of social liberalism isn't enough to classify you as left wing in most political spheres


Yeah, I said she is a centrist righting off left-wing populism in the form of Sanders.

Populism is yuge this election.

It is like there used to be a Populist party back in the day....

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May 18 2016 02:36pm
lolol

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May 18 2016 02:41pm
Quote (Beowulf @ May 18 2016 12:34pm)
If Trump ends up labeling the wall as "just a suggestion" like he did banning muslims what will there be for supporters to hold on to?


trump is saying it's a suggestion as of right now because it's not been implemented, he's not withdrawing his statement to have a temporary ban on Muslims entering the USA.

I am going to assume you did not read any of the policy I linked
Quote (thesnipa @ May 18 2016 12:28pm)
i ignored the rest of it because i thought the differences in the comparison were evident, but i guess you used the example so you didn't... Even when walls are placed security and maintenance are required for them to work effectively, that's been true since the Great wall of China got its first set of patrolmen and sentinel towers.

Now ask yourself, will the US pay the same amount in maintenance and security for a southern border fence that keeps out illegal immigrants that the Israelis spend to keep out existential threats of terrorism? No, of course they wont.


I don't see any reason the wall will not be maintained.

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May 18 2016 02:48pm
Quote (majorblood @ May 18 2016 12:41pm)
trump is saying it's a suggestion as of right now because it's not been implemented, he's not withdrawing his statement to have a temporary ban on Muslims entering the USA.



Oh we are doing the pansy thing again where we whistle and test the waters and then fake backtrack hoping that the energized racists/bigots/haters in general still show up while trying to get uninformed moderates to not get too turned off?
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May 18 2016 02:49pm
Quote (Skinned @ May 18 2016 09:34pm)
Yeah, I said she is a centrist righting off left-wing populism in the form of Sanders.

Populism is yuge this election.

It is like there used to be a Populist party back in the day....


I don't think Sanders is a left wing populist. The policies he represents are standard in developed countries like Canada and the UK, the problem is that Americans don't realise how viable they actually are. Sanders doesn't provide enough detail when it comes to achieving his policy proposals though, and he does have a habit of repeating the same old rhetoric. But then again, so does Clinton.
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May 18 2016 02:51pm
Quote (majorblood @ May 18 2016 02:41pm)
I don't see any reason the wall will not be maintained.


Its not about the maintenance its about the level of maintenance. Israel has cart blanche to spend whatever they need to secure and maintain their border, the same will not be true for the US govt as the threat is not the same, terrorism vs tacos. The difference in inputs allowed by the tax base make for drastically different outputs in effectiveness.
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May 18 2016 02:54pm
Quote (Beowulf @ May 18 2016 09:48pm)
Oh we are doing the pansy thing again where we whistle and test the waters and then fake backtrack hoping that the energized racists/bigots/haters in general still show up while trying to get uninformed moderates to not get too turned off?


Didn't you know that his tax plan isn't actually his intended tax plan because he made it with the intention of negotiating with the dems so the rich get taxed more than under his plan?
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May 18 2016 02:55pm
Quote (dro94 @ May 18 2016 12:54pm)
Didn't you know that his tax plan isn't actually his intended tax plan because he made it with the intention of negotiating with the dems so the rich get taxed more than under his plan?


I know that he is the beast at the end of the bible and he will destroy this planet
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May 18 2016 02:56pm
Quote (Beowulf @ May 18 2016 12:48pm)
Oh we are doing the pansy thing again where we whistle and test the waters and then fake backtrack hoping that the energized racists/bigots/haters in general still show up while trying to get uninformed moderates to not get too turned off?

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I know that he is the beast at the end of the bible and he will destroy this planet



you have a vivid imagination.
Quote (dro94 @ May 18 2016 12:54pm)
Didn't you know that his tax plan isn't actually his intended tax plan because he made it with the intention of negotiating with the dems so the rich get taxed more than under his plan?


Trump understands negotiations better than you or I.

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May 18 2016 02:59pm
Quote (majorblood @ 18 May 2016 21:56)
Trump understands negotiations better than you or I.


cool so he will fuck america better than you and i
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