pard? more like rard cause u cunts are fuckin rarded

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Lol dude. Bernie is socialism lite. You haven't seen the platform of a real communist apparently.

while that post is obviously by an uninformed poster, any time someone cries about socialism in Scandanavia they're reminded that many of the countries there operate on a fairly freemarket economy and have many aspects of capitalism in their makeup.

i wouldn't say it's a crazy thing to say Bernie is as socialist as many places labeled socialist in the political arena. it's just that those places aren't real socialism, either.

Really Bernie is just the most socialist of the bunch. and of course we all realize if he was any more socialist he'd be unelectable in reality. and he's already struggling to shrug the commie label.

Yeah, the old round of

Thats socialism --> theyre doing great --> thats not real socialism. --> then lets implement the policy --> no thats socialism

Bernie is definitely the "most socialist" but hes not particularly socialist when taken in the context of the larger industrialized world, and not socialist at all when taken in the context of actual socialists.

I think there's the further issue that true single party socialist states tend to be full of so much corruption that they're clearly too far from the goals of socialism to be considered socialist. Venezuela, etc. These are sham socialist states where the stated goal of Marx to take back the means of production is never even on the table.

then in the multi party socialist states they have less income inequality, but through a hybridized method of sociocapitalism. as a caveat many tend to have low population density and high amounts of natural resources in sectors like logging and mining. the ratio of natural resource earnings to population is fairly large compared to a place like the US. so it's an easier model to follow from "our stuff as a country" to "pay for our school, healthcare, housing, etc".

The US has decent population density, and we're not as connected with out natural resources as being "ours". imagine telling Exxon the oil is ours, or natural gas, or trees, or w/e. we just dont have that mentality.

he is unelectable already for President at least. a great deal of the population which works for a living won’t vote for his radical, math-denying positions. and the (D)s will always stack the deck against him no matter what their constituents want

i disagree. as a moderate against nearly all of his policies i'd vote for him over trump just as a lame duck presidency. 4 years of Senate laughing at him, 2 years of the house after it flips when he wins.

the only thing i'd fear is a senate/house majority impeaching as revenge.

but on the dem side he's #4 on my list.

1. yanggang2020
2. Creepy Joe, aka the status quo of 2014ish.
3. Bloomberg
4. Bernie
5. a literal garbage can with lip stick and magic marker face on it
6. Mayor Pete
7. everyone else in an unelectable orgy of failure.

Due to his advanced age and recent health issues, I think that Bernie's choice of VP would be really important, much more so than with almost any other presidential candidate.
If he runs with say Stacey Abrams or an AOC clone (who's old enough to be eligible for P/VP), he's a big no-no for me. In that case, even in a lame duck presidency, I wouldnt want to risk giving such a figure multiple years of the WH as a platform to raise their personal profile and normalize their wacky ideas.

i mean, the current president is having the epa "look into" the number of toilet flushings, believes diet and health aren't interconnected, proscribes to the theory that energy is finite over a lifetime, and thought visiting North Korea was a good idea.

lots of people have whacky ideas, i only care about what laws they pass. in 2020 i dont even care about Executive orders tbh.