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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 27 2019 01:24pm)
Only if you take it in the most narrow sense possible. For all practical purposes they are political opponents.


Actually it's exactly in the practical sense that they aren't. As I said they may never go head to head on anything.

Except hopefully 1 day a boxing match would be great
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Quote (proccy @ Dec 27 2019 03:20pm)
They aren't opponents yet. Possibly never will be


this is a really simple take lol. Biden is the front runner of a field where the winner will face off against Trump. of course they're political opponents. and they've been sniping at each other for years now. even if Biden wasn't running Trump would have motive to fuck him over just to make Obama and his administration look worse. there's like zero contexts where they're not opponents.

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Actually it's exactly in the practical sense that they aren't. As I said they may never go head to head on anything.

Except hopefully 1 day a boxing match would be great


this is silly. we live in a 2 party system. ALL democratic presidential candidates are opponents of ALL republican presidential candidates. to suggest otherwise is so semantic that it is untruthful.

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this is a really simple take lol. Biden is the front runner of a field where the winner will face off against Trump. of course they're political opponents. and they've been sniping at each other for years now. even if Biden wasn't running Trump would have motive to fuck him over just to make Obama and his administration look worse. there's like zero contexts where they're not opponents.


That will be up to the democrats. Until then, it's up to the democrats :P
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That will be up to the democrats. Until then, it's up to the democrats :P


this mentality is so regressive i had to drink lead paint to even understand how someone could think what you're saying.

Whether Biden is an "opponent" or "potential opponent" makes zero difference in context, that being that Trump would want to clear a strong opponent (potential or actual) from the field.

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this mentality is so regressive i had to drink lead paint to even understand how someone could think what you're saying.

Whether Biden is an "opponent" or "potential opponent" makes zero difference in context, that being that Trump would want to clear a strong opponent from the field.


it's not up to trump, is it? like i said, the democrats themselves are going to be voting on this. if they are so worried about how this will hurt biden in a democratic primary, they have FAR bigger problems than that!


e/ we can move this to the impeachment thread where it belongs btw

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it's not up to trump, is it? like i said, the democrats themselves are going to be voting on this. if they are so worried about how this will hurt biden in a democratic primary, they have FAR bigger problems than that!


why would who it's up to change whether he's an "opponent"?

potential opponents are a type of opponent.

i agree they have a lot bigger fish to fry, but that doesnt change that Biden is a political opponent to Trump.

you made a silly assertion.

AOC is a political opponent for Trump, and she's not in the democratic primary at all.

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someone who competes against or fights another in a contest, game, or argument; a rival or adversary.


are they opponents in the 2020 presidential election? not yet, maybe never. are the opponents in public discourse? yes. are they rivals or adversaries? of course. do they have handfuls of political disagreements where they reference each other on twitter and in speeches? of course.



as thor said, your semantic point is only "true" in such a narrow sense that it doesnt matter as a point. it's moot and disingenuous. they are political opponents in any context that matters.
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver

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https://i.redd.it/ng7pifqjqhr31.jpg
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver

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